Prison Break Catwalks

[Whimsy]

What exactly is considered a catwalk? Different admins have different opinions and ever since i have been playing here i have always thought of top of cells or any roof that is above where you technically would need to go for any reason as a catwalk. A catwalk is typically defined as an open or narrow walkway that is elevated and above the ground.



So are top of cells and on top of medic on electric revamp for an example, considered a catwalk or not? obviously on maps like lego where top of cells is open and it is necessary for terrorists to go on top of to get to some areas is not a catwalk, but on maps where there is no reason to be on top of them beside rebelling i usually consider that a catwalk, am i wrong?

[BlackEagle]

What exactly is considered a catwalk? Different admins have different opinions and ever since i have been playing here i have always thought of top of cells or any roof that is above where you technically would need to go for any reason as a catwalk. A catwalk is typically defined as an open or narrow walkway that is elevated and above the ground.



So are top of cells and on top of medic on electric revamp for an example, considered a catwalk or not? obviously on maps like lego where top of cells is open and it is necessary for terrorists to go on top of to get to some areas is not a catwalk, but on maps where there is no reason to be on top of them beside rebelling i usually consider that a catwalk, am i wrong?

We have always defined catwalks as those typically leading to armory. Tops of cells, medic, sauna, iso, etc. are not considered catwalks. The reason why they are restricted is because of their access to armory. So for example, razor catwalks are pretty obvious, however those in soccer are not KOSable. VIPinthemix are the catwalks all surrounding the entrance to armory. It can be difficult to really define exactly what a catwalk is because it varies on the map but in general they are those that lead to armory.

EDIT: Since you are an admin you should be able to see this thread:

http://www.steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54057

These are obviously CS:S maps but this kind of outlines what are considered catwalks. Also, what Caution states in a couple posts down is probably the general rule to follow.

[Whimsy]

okay so i will stop enforcing that rooftops are catwalks obviously because they dont lead anywhere...but you and caution kinda collide in what you say. You say that catwalks are platforms that lead to armory and caution says they are any platform that lead to different places such as exits. So technically the above area of soccer on maps like vipinthemix i wont consider catwalks anymore but top of cells on vipinthemix has a vent and also can lead to top floor of vip..so what is your ruling on that? Top of cells on like revamp that dont lead anywhere i wont kos for that anymore but vip is just asking for trouble @BlackEagle

[BlackEagle]

okay so i will stop enforcing that rooftops are catwalks obviously because they dont lead anywhere...but you and caution kinda collide in what you say. You say that catwalks are platforms that lead to armory and caution says they are any platform that lead to different places such as exits. So technically the above area of soccer on maps like vipinthemix i wont consider catwalks anymore but top of cells on vipinthemix has a vent and also can lead to top floor of vip..so what is your ruling on that? Top of cells on like revamp that dont lead anywhere i wont kos for that anymore but vip is just asking for trouble @BlackEagle

That is still top of cells. You can access the top of cells on vipinthemix without going through any vents. However, if a player enters that vent or goes through the vent in disco you can kill them. Top of cells are ok.

What Caution was referring to is that catwalks themselves that lead to anywhere else are KOS. For example, razor maps typically have catwalks that leave the pool area. Since those leave the actual area those are considered KOS. The catwalks in the soccer just go in a square and don't leave the soccer area so therefore are not KOS.

Think of it this way: If a catwalk basically gives a T an opportunity to rebel, such as giving them an advantage to leave the room or go to a secret room, they are then considered KOS. If they don't do anything other than just provide a vantage point for CTs to watch over the Ts then they aren't considered KOSable.

[Whimsy]

i dont mean to argue but if top of cells has a vent then that is a potential way for them to rebel and leave the area Dx

[Dirk]

i dont mean to argue but if top of cells has a vent then that is a potential way for them to rebel and leave the area Dx

The top of the cells is not an automatic KOS. We don't kill for being someplace that has a vent unless they start breaking it. Only secret tunnels, Armory, CT catwalks, and vents are auto KOS. You may give them orders not to access certain areas however. A roof is just that, a roof and not a catwalk. If you have made rules that they cannot access that area then you still must still give warnings (unlike KOS areas) The reason you do not have to warn for some areas is that they give the T direct access to weapons or the armory.