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    Prop Surfing on ttt_rooftops

    Prop surfing is normally against the rules on our trouble in terrorist town server. I believe it was the map creators intention for people to prop surf. There are two separate areas on the map where he put the two props next to each other. The props do not make much sense together as props, so he must have wanted us to prop surf. There is even a hidden area you can get to by prop surfing. You could make the argument that it would delay rounds since you might not be able to shoot the people in the secret area, but a single discombob will without a doubt kill anyone who is up there. It is also very dangerous to prop surf so the person attempting to do it might die. They are risking their round by doing this.

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    The reason to against prop surfing was to prevent someone to get to somewhere where people can't look for them, thus making the round very long everytime. (What i think the rule is)

    But i see no problem for people prop surfing on spot or do it without hiding at no one can reach you. But i will say nah for letting them prop surf


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    Even if the maker of the map wants us to propsurf up there (roof in pic #2), it is still a rule that should be kept, regardless of what map the server is on. Think about it, once someone gets up there, it's impossible for anyone else to get up there to kill them.

    also Bom's post seems to sum this up.
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    A discombob kills whoever is up there? And you can snipe them if they are looking over the edge. Its just like the traitor room in 67thway, or any traitor room for that matter. Just because it CAN delay the round doesn't mean it will. Besides we already shortened the round timer from its original 11 minutes. Might as well make it haste made if all you guys are worried about is people taking their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    A discombob kills whoever is up there? And you can snipe them if they are looking over the edge. Its just like the traitor room in 67thway, or any traitor room for that matter. Just because it CAN delay the round doesn't mean it will. Besides we already shortened the round timer from its original 11 minutes. Might as well make it haste made if all you guys are worried about is people taking their time.
    There is a difference between someone taking their time and someone jerking off on a roof no one can get to, or if they do get to it they get insta-killed.

    There isn't any logic on switching around a rule for one map just because you assume he put these random props there to prop surf. Even if that is the case, that doesn't mean that we NEED to use them to prop surf.
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    Going on the roof to snipe is more offensive than hiding in the T room waiting for people to walk into the trap. At least you can be killed.

    It would certainly make the map a lot better. If i contact the map creator and get his blessing can we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    Going on the roof to snipe is more offensive than hiding in the T room waiting for people to walk into the trap. At least you can be killed.

    It would certainly make the map a lot better. If i contact the map creator and get his blessing can we?
    LOL no. I think you're missing the point.

    You're arguing that because the map was "designed" for prop surfing, that we should change a long standing rule of no prop surfing for a single map in our rotation. Not only is that confusing for new players, but also any new admin that strolls into TTT, and overall will cause more wrongful punishment and potentially pissed off players than its worth.

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    Uh if someones an admin they should have a clear understanding of the rules. Theres a rules discussion section for a reason. Rules would never chance if we were just afraid of "confusing admins". Put it in the MOTD. No propsurfing isnt even a long standing rule, it hasnt even been a rule as long as ive been playing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    Uh if someones an admin they should have a clear understanding of the rules. Theres a rules discussion section for a reason. Rules would never chance if we were just afraid of "confusing admins". Put it in the MOTD. No propsurfing isnt even a long standing rule, it hasnt even been a rule as long as ive been playing here.
    so in the MOTD we would put: No propsurfing, except on this one map.

    Idk how else to make you understand that its a very silly idea to change the rules for a single map.

    Someone joins on rooftops > Oh I can propsurf > switch to new map > try to prop surf > Get kicked > never come back because retarded admins.

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