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    There will be extremists whether or not they get killed. It's the world we live in. Better to let them meet Allah and take measures to counter or even prevent further incidents. French have done a pretty swell job overall, didn't take long, not that they've really been hiding all that well. They could have used a Tec9, it's a pretty good gun for mass shootings. World's too far gone to fix any issues or avoid any innocent death. Better to strap up and protect yourself and loved ones rather than be a statistic. Each to their own on that topic, but from a law enforcement stand point, when seconds count, we're minutes away.

    Frosty, it's not a race issue. Don't make it one, or you'll be just like those dickbags Holder and The REV. They already have blood on their hands but I digress. Again, not a race issue. It's an extremist belief issue. These people are bred into believing that what they do is right, or just too fucked up to believe otherwise. There are Americans, Germans, English, French and people from all walks of life ditching their lives at home to go fight for ISIS in the Middle East. White, Black, Brown, Yellow, Purple...It doesn't matter. In the end, Islamist extremism is a belief system, not a race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkjr View Post
    Should we respond to extremists committing barbaric acts against the innocent politely? This isn't "islamophobia" this is anger and disgust that people are capable of such things.
    yes, we'll really show those extremists by insulting all non-quranist muslims (the vast majority fyi) through the mockery of their prophet

    those extremists won't know what hit them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rws View Post
    yes, we'll really show those extremists by insulting all non-quranist muslims (the vast majority fyi) through the mockery of their prophet

    those extremists won't know what hit them!
    He didn't say anything about insulting all of them...He just said it WASN'T Islamophobia.

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    It might not be a race issue but clearly people are making it so by throwing grenades at mosques etc Maybe they don't know realise that people other than Muslims can be terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borkupine View Post
    He didn't say anything about insulting all of them...He just said it WASN'T Islamophobia.
    has the one of the most popular angry and disgusted responses to this incident not been blatant islamophobia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rws View Post
    has the one of the most popular angry and disgusted responses to this incident not been blatant islamophobia?
    whether you choose to accept it or not, islam IS the root cause of these attacks. You are correct, the vast majority of practicing Muslims would never do such a thing but these acts were committed in the name of the Muslim faith, the lash back is understandable and to be expected. If you want to be angry at someone for defacing the image of islam then be angry at the extremists who commit horrible acts all over the world not the people who get angry at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkjr View Post
    whether you choose to accept it or not, islam IS the root cause of these attacks. You are correct, the vast majority of practicing Muslims would never do such a thing but these acts were committed in the name of the Muslim faith, the lash back is understandable and to be expected. If you want to be angry at someone for defacing the image of islam then be angry at the extremists who commit horrible acts all over the world not the people who get angry at them.
    christianity was also the root cause of anders breivik's 80 murder spree, who if you've read his manuscript, clearly killed in the name of his god. i don't recall people posting pictures of Jesus sucking dick to combat extremist christianity

    to mock the prophet Muhammad through visual depictions (some of which are outright offensive) when the hadiths clearly mention their distaste for idolatry is very disrespectful to the average muslim. it doesn't matter if its a symbol of resistance against wahhabi terrorism because by defacing the foundations of islam you're also insulting its regular adherents - this is islamophobia

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rws View Post
    christianity was also the root cause of anders breivik's 80 murder spree, who if you've read his manuscript, clearly killed in the name of his god. i don't recall people posting pictures of Jesus sucking dick to combat extremist christianity

    to mock the prophet Muhammad through visual depictions (some of which are outright offensive) when the hadiths clearly mention their distaste for idolatry is very disrespectful to the average muslim. it doesn't matter if its a symbol of resistance against wahhabi terrorism because by defacing the foundations of islam you're also insulting its regular adherents - this is islamophobia
    you are clearly overlooking the fact that killing in the name of Islam is vastly more common than killing in the name of Christianity. I agree that making fun of the religion is distasteful but to call the outrage unjustified while the muslim faith continues to spawn this sort of thing is just silly. To lash out at random Muslims over this incident (like some people are doing) is clearly wrong and I would never support that but expecting people to respect the same religion that causes this is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkjr View Post
    you are clearly overlooking the fact that killing in the name of Islam is vastly more common than killing in the name of Christianity. I agree that making fun of the religion is distasteful but to call the outrage unjustified while the muslim faith continues to spawn this sort of thing is just silly. To lash out at random Muslims over this incident (like some people are doing) is clearly wrong and I would never support that but expecting people to respect the same religion that causes this is just silly.
    the frequency of islamic terrorism versus christian terrorism was not the point of my post at all, clearly you missed the point if you think it was

    islam doesn't cause nor spawn anything - holy texts are generally quite vague, and the interpretation of these texts is what causes extremists to act the way they do. that is an extremely elementary concept to grasp. it reminds me of an angsty teen in the youtube comment section shouting on about how religion sucks and causes war or whatever

    the rage is not unjustified, it is misdirected

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    Quote Originally Posted by high rws View Post
    islam doesn't cause nor spawn anything - holy texts are generally quite vague, and the interpretation of these texts is what causes extremists to act the way they do.
    This right here.

    The entire religion is essentially divided among multiple interpretations of the Quran with unfortunately some members taking a vast extreme approach to the text. But it isn't just limited to the Quran itself but among all religions and holy texts within those religions (ex: Christianity as well). Hence different denominations within Christianity itself: Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, etc.
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