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    i kinda wanted to point this out

    ive read some of the stuff on the apeal bans page and " we will just ip ban you"
    i hope you guys know that you can change your ip by resetting your router or modem...takes 15 secs to do

    i just wanted to point that out to you guys here at ZM

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEAM_0:0:18004197 View Post
    ive read some of the stuff on the apeal bans page and " we will just ip ban you"
    i hope you guys know that you can change your ip by resetting your router or modem...takes 15 secs to do

    i just wanted to point that out to you guys here at ZM
    Except not everyone can, and the IP changed will still be relatively the same. =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEAM_0:0:18004197 View Post
    ive read some of the stuff on the apeal bans page and " we will just ip ban you"
    i hope you guys know that you can change your ip by resetting your router or modem...takes 15 secs to do

    i just wanted to point that out to you guys here at ZM
    That would be only if some one had a static IP, and you have to pay more for that, so allot of kids with the internet don't have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suricruise View Post
    That would be only if some one had a static IP, and you have to pay more for that, so allot of kids with the internet don't have that.
    Lol no. Thats if you have a dynamic ip.

    Static ip - always stays the same.

    Dynamic - changes when you reset/restart router

    Plus, static costs more per month.

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    restarting your router would only change your local IP address (within your LAN) unless you have it manually set to the same IP, it would not change your outgoing IP address, which is the same for every computer in your house going through the same telephone switch.

    there are ways of getting around this, but those who are stupid enough to get banned are too stupid to know how.
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    They are not stupid it is just they never learned of it beforehand and learned of it when it is too late. Besides you can mask your outgoing IP address if you wanted to.
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    I'm pretty sure I know what thread you're talking about. So time to lay down some knowledge.

    If you're not paying for a static IP then resetting your modem *may* give you a new IP address. An easier way would be to release and renew your DHCP lease.

    As for resetting the router, thats a bit different. If you have a router/modem combo then it'll be just like above. If you're router is separate from your modem then resetting your router would do fuck all. It's on a private network segment and gets its DHCP lease from the modem which isn't a public facing IP.

    Now, we don't have to ban by a single IP, we can ban by a block of IPs. That is, we could ban (for example) 127.0.0.1/24, i.e., 127.0.0.0-127.0.0.255 would be banned. So it comes down to us tracing a person's IP, looking at the network segment their ISP owns, and blocking that entire segment. Chances of someone else being on the same network segment is extremely small, but we could always make exceptions.

    So you may very well think that we can only ban by a single IP and a single SteamID at a time, but you're wrong. Although rarely required, there are many more tools for us to keep the servers running smoothly than you're aware of.
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    Some are wrong with the dynamic adress.
    The ISP have for every house a pre-configured file.
    i dont know how its done in the US.
    Here in the netherlands you cant switch on/off your modem to get a new ip.
    It only asks at the provider for his configuration file.
    Then also a ip adres thats pre-configured for 3 months of date.
    So the ip-adress stays the same for 3 months and after this it will change to a new one not otherwise.

    Thats how it works here in the netherlands and yes its Dynamic only it changes in 3 months you can set the expire date of an IP adres for a time being.

    Also i have tested this my ip-adres stays the same (it is dynamic) and i resetted and turned of my modem. Still the same configuration.
    And no its not static

    The only difference between static and dynamic ip adresses is that static never gets deleted its a ip thats been manual set.
    An Dynamic ip adres you can set for an amount of time on the server how long it stays alive (as they call it).
    Unless something goes wrong you still get the same ip adress untill the time is up of the ip adress and you get a new one for again 3 months.
    or how long it has been set.

    So correct me if im wrong but this is how ip adresses work.
    So goodluck with resetting your modem.
    You still get the same ip adress from the provider, because of the pre-configured files and alive status of the ip adress (btw i forgot the mac adress story but to make it short. Because the mac-adress is always the same and cant be changed the server knows that one certain ip adress belongs to that mac-adres. thats how the stuff works).

    Goodluck with the explanation and if im wrong with something please tell.
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