3 strikes policy

[broncoty]

So the three strikes policy that on the third strike (ban) one is perm banned. This is good and all, I support it and I think it helps keep our servers clean of douche bags.

The only bad part of it is that the same admin can do the 3 bans, this in my opinion is not very secure, it pretty much means and admin can issue a perm ban, because all they have to do is ban someone 3 maybe 4 times to cause it.

I propose that the policy should be that a person is banned at least three times, but was also banned by at least 2 or more different admins. Sure it gives rule breakers a little more leeway, but with all the perm bans being reduced in appeals it seems like it would actually make the process faster.

This of course would not apply to AO/BD and such, but I think it would keep people from being perm banned on a non corroborated opinion of a single admin and offer a check and balance for perm bans giving them more legitimacy.

[Maxwelldon]

I quite much agree with this.. Though other way to get rid of some perms would be that we'd change the length of how long a ban is counted as "strike" as well as inputting reasoning for the ban in to comment field over bansite

As far as I'm concerned, I've recently started to put up comments on almost every ban I do. Could almost recommend every admin doing it so we wouldn't be wondering the exact reason for what the ban was issued later on

[nightmarejr]

I agree.... but thats why we have vent. usually before we issue a perm we ask around and do a character analysis. We also look at the time in between bans. If some guy has a ban in january and another a couple months later and again a couplemonths later then we prolly wont issue a ban. Unless he's doing it for some reason to just be a greifer.

[SpikedRocker]

I quite much agree with this.. Though other way to get rid of some perms would be that we'd change the length of how long a ban is counted as "strike" as well as inputting reasoning for the ban in to comment field over bansite

As far as I'm concerned, I've recently started to put up comments on almost every ban I do. Could almost recommend every admin doing it so we wouldn't be wondering the exact reason for what the ban was issued later on

Yeah I've been doing that too. Mainly so I remember why I banned them in the first place :-P

[Mammal]

So what your saying is that the three strikes would only count if it was by three seperate admins?

I like this idea, It stops personal feelings getting in the way because if one admin hates you it wont matter to much.

[Paladin]

It shouldn't matter which admin did it, because if they are trying so hard to get someone permbanned then they shouldn't be an admin. Admins aren't supposed to hold grudges.

Besides, what if one player decides "Oh, all the other admins are cool...except this one. This one doesn't let me get away with anything. Let's see if I can fuck with him day after day after day and still remain in the server."
Well he's obviously a griefer, but sorry we can't permban him because the one admin that he's been screwing with is the only one who has banned him 3 or more times.

[James]

Erm, not being funny, but don't we already have a system, such as perm bans have to be authorised by AO'S or higher? A normal admin cannot perm ban without authorisation.

[Paladin]

Yeah we do have that system James, but the topic also involves us handing out perm-bans to the people with three strikes.

[barackobama]

Because, if a certian admin does not like someone, they could just ban them 3 times, make a excuse and BAM! Perm banned!

[Paladin]

Once again though, it can also be one guy messing with one admin specifically and BAM new policy says we can't permban the ass because it has been that one admin that has been banning him.