Rule Discussion re Racism

[LegalSmash]

It appears as if Racism is a predominant factor in long bans, permanent bans, and suspension of privileges within the ZM/SG community. There appears to be a fair amount of discrepancy in sentence, punishment, and terms.

I have a proposal for the amendment to the current method of appeals, but solely applying to cases of racism.

In addition to the standard appeal, the player should be required to explain in no less than 1 5 sentence paragraph

1. what racist statement they made
2. why they made the statement (not just: I was angry, but I said "racist terms here" because I felt "racist terms" conveyed (enter idea, thoughts, etc). Also, how they intended the statement to benefit the game, and how it ultimately did not.
3. Why the statement is antisocial, wrong, inappropriate etc, and why they chose to make it despite the clearly stated rules.
4. acknowledge that they have broken a cardinal rule of the server, and that racism is inappropriate.
5. Why they deserve to be unbanned despite what they have written above.


If the person is required to do this, they may just realize JUST how stupid they were, and either will 1. not come back, or 2. i they are allowed back for whatever reason, will think twice because of the pain in the ass due to the process for racism bans, as listed above.

To make this work, we have to compile an entire list of words and associated terms that are not allowed, and place them within a cross referenced list/document within the End user agreement/registration terms.

I can compile a list for the BDs and PM them with this list or we can have a "list all racist terms here" below and discuss the merits of certain "gray area" inclusions or exclusions to make it completely fair.

Please reply via PM if a personal message sent list is more favorable. In my humble opinion, however, a discussion may be appropriate as it will allow an ultimate majority rule regarding what is considered racism within the entire ZM servers.

In order to keep this discussion civil and within its purposes, ZM members with at least 100 posts, all SAs, AOs, BDs, and associated officers should be allowed to post. However, due to lack of involvement on forums OR servers, any less posting or game time (however you guys decide that one) should be excluded so that the community's best interests are kept paramount.

Very Respectfully,

Legalsmash.

[barackobama]

We do not accept racism in any way, shape, or form, even if they didn't or did mean it.

No one is ever racist by mistake..

You don't come out with the "N" word by mistake..

[LegalSmash]

I agree, however, the problem is you have multiple instances by the same idiots, having the appeal process include this, may in fact deter it more.

[Red Tampon]

Sounds good to me actually.

We used to have an excessively long list of words, but this is what we have now:

* Nigger
* Chink
* Gook
* Cracker
* Beaner
* Spic
* Wetback
* Kike

[SpikedRocker]

Nice job Legal...if we could implent this I agree it would show how stupid they are for saying such things. Personally, I believe we should have a zero-tolerance policy in place for racism. If you are ignorant enough to stoop to racism you shouldn't be playing video games, should be in school learn about why its wrong. Again, nice work!

[LegalSmash]

I just think that by just kicking them out, we give the message that it is ok, except to us. If we make them go through this, and they realize just how fucking retarded what they did is, they may buy a clue. It is hard to keep up a behavior when your behavior makes you look like a tard and you are forced to realize it and admit it.

I'd add variations to the words, as follows:

Nigger, Nigra, Nagger, Nyukkah, Nugga, Spook, Jiggaboo, or any of its variations
* Chink, dink, gook,
* Sandnigger, sandmonkey, or any term denoting the phenotypical characteristics of the persn
* Cracker, honkie,
* Beaner, spic, wetback, brown nigger, border nigger, waternigger, or any of the variants
* Kike, hymie, Sheenie,

I vote AGAINST including any non race, ethnic, national origin, outside appearance phrase to fit within the concept of racism.

[Itch]

I like the way you think Legal.
You can't force people to not be ignorant, but if going though a harsh appeal process helps them realize how they are acting it would be worth it.

[AppleShark]

Where's the "anti-thanks" button??

[GrayFox]

Up your ass. No but why would you not thank legal for helping the server?

[Suri]

Up your ass. No but why would you not thank legal for helping the server?

Because it's apple. And we just ignore anything he says.