Obama..

[Hunt3r.j2]

Well, time to celebrate our presidents the American way, by criticizing them until they appear ridiculous.

Obama apparently, might not really be eligible to be president. If you stare hard enough at the constitution, it says that only citizens born in the US can be president. They state that Obama is born in Hawaii, but no hospital in Hawaii will release his long-form birth certificate.

Someone though, claims to have witnessed his birth. Like his grandmother. Who flat out said that he was born in Kenya.

I think it's creepy, but oh well, onto something creepier and can be proven.

If you read a speech that Obama made in June in the National Archives, he calls the Bush administration out for trying to make things look legal that aren't.

Then he goes into something called "Preventative detention." Basically, being arrested because the government expects you to do something wrong. He also wants it to be indefinite, without trial.

Oh wai-.

Yep, he wants to pull the same thing that Bush and Cheney did. Pour the champagne, we have won our rights back.

[Drox]

Well, time to celebrate our presidents the American way, by criticizing them until they appear ridiculous.

Obama apparently, might not really be eligible to be president. If you stare hard enough at the constitution, it says that only citizens born in the US can be president. They state that Obama is born in Hawaii, but no hospital in Hawaii will release his long-form birth certificate.

Someone though, claims to have witnessed his birth. Like his grandmother. Who flat out said that he was born in Kenya.

I think it's creepy, but oh well, onto something creepier and can be proven.

If you read a speech that Obama made in June in the National Archives, he calls the Bush administration out for trying to make things look legal that aren't.

Then he goes into something called "Preventative detention." Basically, being arrested because the government expects you to do something wrong. He also wants it to be indefinite, without trial.

Oh wai-.

Yep, he wants to pull the same thing that Bush and Cheney did. Pour the champagne, we have won our rights back.

lol Aslong as your under "Our" federal government, then what the people want or need is weighed in the hands of fat cats in DC. No matter which party wins the office of president, its pretty much always the same outcome and same policies.

[Omar]

lol Aslong as your under "Our" federal government, then what the people want or need is weighed in the hands of fat cats in DC. No matter which party wins the office of president, its pretty much always the same outcome and same policies.

I.e the whole election democracy thing is an illiusion?


One more thing that confuses me, why is there so many Jews in the US goverment and congress when the majority of the country it self is christian? can it be stated that the majority is stupid, while the miniority is the supreme ruler?


Hmm?

[Drox]

I.e the whole election democracy thing is an illiusion?


One more thing that confuses me, why is there so many Jews in the US goverment and congress when the majority of the country it self is christian? can it be stated that the majority is stupid, while the miniority is the supreme ruler?


Hmm?

Our election system is a joke, it goes by Electoral College which rather than directly voting for the President and Vice President, United States citizens vote for electors. Electors are technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, but in practice pledge to vote for specific candidates and voters cast ballots for favored presidential and vice presidential candidates by voting for correspondingly pledged electors.

It's believed to be fair, but swing states usually can go either way which kinda pisses people off.

As far as the jew thing, America was founded on christian values and whatnot but as people like to say America is a melting pot. So we accept all religions and races into our government if they are born in America. Altho right now we are very iffy on Islam, since we are fighting radicals of that religion but most people of that religion are very kind people and I see nothing wrong with them being in government aslong as they follow the American way of doing things like how everyone else is suppose to which alot of people in our government forgot.

[PotshotPolka]

I.e the whole election democracy thing is an illiusion?


One more thing that confuses me, why is there so many Jews in the US goverment and congress when the majority of the country it self is christian? can it be stated that the majority is stupid, while the miniority is the supreme ruler?


Hmm?

I don't know where the hell you heard that, probably somewhere on Al Jazeera. Your obesession with Jews is unhealthy and uncalled for.

And as far as "illusion of democracy" goes, sometimes the answers you give are the answers you give. If asked the question what is 2+2, party A says 4 when party B also says 4 it doesn't mean the parties are both the same, its just a rational outcome. American foreign policy is one of the things that seems to rarely change between the two parties, regardless of rhetoric. The two exceptions being Carter's attempts to lock foreign dignitaries in the closet together at Camp David and Reagan later dropping tomahawks on a foreign leader's house for doing something stupid... like blowing up a plane over Ireland.

[Hunt3r.j2]

Personally I'd like to see a requirement to own land before you can vote. At least that way we don't have something like the Obama deal where people who don't even have the same views as him voted for him since he was black.


Disappointing, but that's why the US was a republic instead of a democracy.

Or so I hear.

[Nighthawk]

Our election system is a joke, it goes by Electoral College which rather than directly voting for the President and Vice President, United States citizens vote for electors. Electors are technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, but in practice pledge to vote for specific candidates and voters cast ballots for favored presidential and vice presidential candidates by voting for correspondingly pledged electors.

Percentage based elections would have been (and still are) hell. We can't rely on the total percentage of the people, because states have a hard enough time tallying the results from counties, which have a hard enough time tallying results from their cities, which have a hard enough time tallying results from the city's population. Do we really want to make it harder?

[Italian Jew]

Personally I'd like to see a requirement to own land before you can vote. At least that way we don't have something like the Obama deal where people who don't even have the same views as him voted for him since he was black.

Or maybe some preferred his views over McCain's views. I know this may sound crazy to you, but a good portion of people can think about the issues and vote based on their own opinions on them.

Also, your statement implies that those who do not own land are those who disagreed with Obama, yet voted for him based on race. I don't think there is a correlation between those two points.

And what is with this owning land nonsense? That worked great hundreds of years ago, but today, you have millions of people who do not own land. They may be on their way to owning it or just renting a place (not even land, just property), but your idea would prevent millions of citizens from voting.


You may now go back to drinking your special punch.

[Drox]

Percentage based elections would have been (and still are) hell. We can't rely on the total percentage of the people, because states have a hard enough time tallying the results from counties, which have a hard enough time tallying results from their cities, which have a hard enough time tallying results from the city's population. Do we really want to make it harder?

Yes

[Nighthawk]

Yes

So we find out the results longer and with more error?