Pakistan and US relations

[LegalSmash]

As of late, our nation has taken more proactive steps to combatting a very pervasive terrorist problem in Pakistan's wide open places... as such Pakistan is acting rather butthurt. I think this issue may develop into problemd if we continue to strike within their borders, but equally important is the prevention of the continued proliferation of terrorist training camps and safe zones for wanted individuals.

So, here's the question, how do we address pakistan?

[PotshotPolka]

As of late, our nation has taken more proactive steps to combatting a very pervasive terrorist problem in Pakistan's wide open places... as such Pakistan is acting rather butthurt. I think this issue may develop into problemd if we continue to strike within their borders, but equally important is the prevention of the continued proliferation of terrorist training camps and safe zones for wanted individuals.

So, here's the question, how do we address pakistan?

We actually just went over this in class today. Pakistan is dirt, dirt poor. Their government is frail, and wasn't helped by Bhutto being offed or the fact that Musharraf cracked down on democratic opposition, and manhandled the country. Basically being said, they Northern Frontier and Tribal Regions, and Balochistan are all practically failed states, and with the lack of presence of much authority, Taliban offshoots were welcomed or weakly opposed.

The Pakistani government is, with all due respect in a bad way here. They risk harsh criticism from either the Islamists on the right, and liberal, democratic lawyers on the left, so they're walking a fine line.

[Havok]

Personally I think without intervention it'll just be Aghanistan Mk. II.

Only, Pakistan has nukes.

[LegalSmash]

and STYLE!!! C'mon those long Kameez shirts? Bitches be all over them!

Seriously though, Pakistan's nuclear capability in the sandbox IS a frightening prospect, given how incredibly unstable they are as a nation.

[PotshotPolka]

and STYLE!!! C'mon those long Kameez shirts? Bitches be all over them!

Seriously though, Pakistan's nuclear capability in the sandbox IS a frightening prospect, given how incredibly unstable they are as a nation.

It's the only reason they haven't fallen apart and been ignored by the rest of the international community.

[LegalSmash]

The sad part about the majority of the mideast is that the dogmatic views of clerics, and the people's anger with inability to have western style success without oil money or acting in western fashion turn into a hell of a kettle of shit to deal with.

Arab 1 wants flash and money, but not western values... thing is, flash and money COME from western value. If he gets said flash and money, he is disrespecting islam.

Arab 2 wants religious uniformity and islamic utopia, the rest of the world thinks it is kind of fucked up to stone a 14 year old girl to death for being raped by several drunk men, the world is shocked when it happens, and Arab 2 gets angrier at the world's alleged "bias" against islam, and their stereotyping the religion as "violent.

Arab 3 wants neither, he just wants to follow his faith, and live his life... but he's scared shitless of 2, and cannot stand 1 because they both make him look like either an oil saddled, woman crazed, hyper rich, illiterate playboy, or a bearded, turban topped mideival relic who wants his woman to be humble or die trying.

Sadly, Arab 3 does not really raise his voice often... and its why things are the way they are.

[Frostbyte]

So, here's the question, how do we address pakistan?

[LegalSmash]

LOL

[Lux]

Well, its better than if US were a cricket playing nation, considering the recent attack on the visiting Sri Lankan team.

[Slavic]

Pressuring Musharraf out of office was the worst thing to happen to the stability of Pakistan. While Musharraf was President Pakistan's economy made impressive gains and he also started crackdown campaigns on Taliban outposts. He was trying to push a moderate Islamic ideal for his country which is desperately needed.

Now that Musharraf isn't putting pressure on Taliban you've got two opposing forces destabilizing the country. Increased Taliban attacks cause the populace to think that the government is weak. Increased cross-border US air strikes diminish Islamabad's sense of authority in its own country.

What Pakistan needs right now is a secular military hardliner. Democratic processes must be slowed, and more power given to the military to conduct campaigns against the Taliban. A stronger and higher spirited military will hopefully stop low level officers from siding with Taliban forces. Another thing that is needed is for the US to halt cross-border strikes and not intervene militarily with Taliban forces in Pakistan. The people in Pakistan need Pakistanis to do the fighting to help unify them. We don't want them to think that they are just a US puppet state.