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    U.S. Preparing Military Options Against Iran

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042501480.html

    This shit is scary - I hope every US citizen in here would riot if these plans got any more real than this!

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    I would prefer if our country would wait a bit before invading another country...just loses its flavor after a while. We are bogged down by Iraq and fighting Al Qaeda and now Iran? I understand Iran in several years, but not anytime soon. It would stretch out military too thin, which is disastrous, even for strong nations. Might have to wait till World War III before we fight Iran.


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    This is kinda simular with what happened before we went into Iraq, but congress approved that action. I do not see congress doing that again any time soon, expecially with the democrats in control of congress. Most of the most recent elected democrats to congress used ending the war in Iraq to gain the win. If they approve, I think we would start a motion to recall all elected officals for probably the biggest lie to the country since Bill's stained dress. But I really don't think that would happen, too much is at stake for the november elections. Bush is on his way out, personally I think he and Laura has checked out since she was 'host' of Today show earlier this week and him doing more awarding of people to try to make his image better, he will want to leave this for the next president to deal with. We'll have to keep an eye on this to make sure the elected people don't make another stupid mistake.

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    I say its good idea AS LONG as it is implemented correctly. If we do things correctly this time.....(I really hope so if we deciede to take action)....then war against Iran will be successful. Iran supports terrorism in the Middle East and he needs to be stopped. Its like if we just waged war against just Japan in WWII, you need to get rid of all threats and bad or "evil" governments. Again as long as this action will be implemented correctly then I say go for it but then again we have no choice in the matter just hope they can't screw up this war too if it happens or not.
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    What do people think they could achieve through this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    What do people think they could achieve through this?
    The main idea is to take out goverments or regimes that support terrorist activites to "undermine" the terrorist cells through out the world. Some governments take in terrorists, others fund them, and some say they go as far as helping with planning. Fundamentally, that is a good idea, take out their support, but it is flawed. Back in the 50's-60's CIA helped local fighters in Afghanistan to stop the Russians from taking them. By the end of that conflict the local leader there was a Saudi named Osama bin Laden. So as history as shown, we might help someone on their plight for freedom, just to have them turn around and stab us in the back.

    Taking out Iran's government will just add more instability in the middle east. Instead of having one country in a state of "civil war", there will be 2. The 'possible' replacements for the government in Iran argue more than the ones in Iraq do. So think it took 2 years for the goverment in Iraq to form a new constitution, it might take Iran 4 or 5 years to get such a "stable" situation.

    Everyone is concerned that Iran is making nuclear weapons. Right now their capabilities to attack us are slim and none. They have no access to the ICBM's that would deleiver such a warhead. Proof that they are even making these weapons are just about as much proof of WMD's in Iraq. Our spy sats can't prove they are doing more than enricing the urainium to try to get a nuclear reactor started. To me thats a sign that they want an alternative source of energy, other than oil. If we restrict this, then what right do we have to horde all the oil when their only source of viable energy is used through oil, coal, and refinerarys? The whole world needs to move towards a new source of energy. Not just the power countries.

    Sorry for this being so long and a rant but that is all these wars are fought over, freedom, energy, and threat of conflicts.

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    I'm not surprised, It'd be nice to see the populace have a problem with this, but they won't.

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    I see no point in starting more shit over there. I see no point in trying to "eliminate" terrorists, what right do we have to invade other countries because a bunch of old white guys think its a great idea. Most of these guys approving this non-sense aren't going to be alive in 10 years. And everyone knows, whatever we start is never going to end, just like everything else happening over there with israel and palestinians. No one truely has "freedom". Its just a false sense of protection. Regardless of what happens anywhere, the government dictates what goes on, we have no choice. Essentially we are no better off than other countries. We might have the right to elect people, but have no control over what they do. Sooner or later we will all be under some sort of dictatorship if they want to hold back people and disarm everyone.
    Since forcing people to follow "laws" is impossible world-wide, we are only wasting more energy on it. Id love to know the figures of how much fossil fuels we use in Iraq daily compared to what we gain daily.

    But anyways, I would have blown most places to pieces already if I had the power. Only one way to cure idiots is making examples of them. Blow em all up. Show the others we aren't going to be pushed around.
    Iran isnt worth the manpower. I have a few Iranian friends and sure their government is shady, but the people are good. Just because they look different doesnt mean we have to kill them.
    Hopefully whoever wins the next election puts this crap on the backburner and figures out how to cut the losses and get what we can out of Iraq before they blow each other up.

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