NIU Shooting

[Omega]

Six shot dead, including gunman in Northern Illinois University shooting

FFS... this has hit a little too close to home.

[LegalSmash]

Have they determined who it was yet?

[EvInReaLife]

Yea, they said it was a

DEKALB, Ill. - Florida authorities and a university source on Friday identified the suspect in the Northern Illinois University slayings as 27-year-old former student Steven Kazmierczak.

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23171567?GT1=10856

So you can read up more on it.

4th shooting at an american school in less than week

School violence has been escalating recently.

[Itch]

Yea, they said it was a



Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23171567?GT1=10856

So you can read up more on it.

4th shooting at an american school in less than week

School violence has been escalating recently.

I work at a school.. Why do you think I have a concealed carry permit!

[Paladin]

Christ, So many people are going to drop out or not go to College just for fear of another school shooting hitting them...

[LegalSmash]

Yea, Watch the IQ scores tumble now. Im amazed this hasnt happened at an ivy league

[Super Nublet]

Do you guys think students should be allowed to carry concealed firearms on campus?



I thought about it for a while now and I take it as this. You don't hear much about school or other public shootings in rural communities where people grow up with guns and almost everyone has one if not on them, then in their car or nearby. Also, don't see much shootings in Texas where carrying a weapon unconcealed is allowed. An armed citizen is a force to be reckoned with. One thinks twice about pulling a piece when he/she can get five pointed at him/her within 5 seconds. However an armed person among non-armed has potential of a wolf among sheep. So that takes care of the daily life, however college campus is different.

College campus has students from all over, some come from normal families, some don't. Some know how to handle guns, some don't. Some even already served in the military. Some already did time in jail. The implied variety of the student body is way different from a relative conformity of the established community, thus the behavior is less predictable. Therefore I don't think regular students should be allowed to pack, but I do believe that a trained, checked, mobile student body with arms should be in place.

Also I think that schools/college campuses should have metal detectors in place, and MORE School Police Officers. And that should cut down on school shootings.

[SOLANUM]

I dont live to far from there. Whats up with all the shootings in the past year? There have been 4 i think,thats 4 too many.


Sol:v_SPIN:

[Itch]

Do you guys think students should be allowed to carry concealed firearms on campus?



I thought about it for a while now and I take it as this. You don't hear much about school or other public shootings in rural communities where people grow up with guns and almost everyone has one if not on them, then in their car or nearby. Also, don't see much shootings in Texas where carrying a weapon unconcealed is allowed. An armed citizen is a force to be reckoned with. One thinks twice about pulling a piece when he/she can get five pointed at him/her within 5 seconds. However an armed person among non-armed has potential of a wolf among sheep. So that takes care of the daily life, however college campus is different.

College campus has students from all over, some come from normal families, some don't. Some know how to handle guns, some don't. Some even already served in the military. Some already did time in jail. The implied variety of the student body is way different from a relative conformity of the established community, thus the behavior is less predictable. Therefore I don't think regular students should be allowed to pack, but I do believe that a trained, checked, mobile student body with arms should be in place.

Also I think that schools/college campuses should have metal detectors in place, and MORE School Police Officers. And that should cut down on school shootings.

The University I work at tried to ban all guns on campus and ended up dropping the case when it looked like they were going to lose in the State supreme court. It looked like they would be able to ban students from carrying only if they provided Gun lockers at every building for students to lock up their guns. The cost alone made it unreasonable. You also can't effectively put metal detectors on an open campus. It's not like there is a fence around most campus's. Even if there were it would be very easy to get around.

People who obtain the permits legally and are taking the effort to abide by the laws, and are almost never the ones you hear about on the news. Many of the school shootings are done with illegally obtained guns. I'm all for a screening process but don't think banning guns would stop something like this.. All it would do is prevent people from defending themselves when this kind of shit goes down.

That's just my 2 cents.

[Omega]

Do you guys think students should be allowed to carry concealed firearms on campus?

Concealed carry is banned in Illinois, let alone on campus.