Ron Paul???

[Zero001]

Ron Paul is an internet phenomenon that has swept the nation throughout this election. He has a huge following yet he receives low numbers when it comes to actual voting. So of you may say it’s the media’s fault or it’s the people’s fault for not being open enough to listen to him. I’m starting this thread to educate Ron Paul supporters as to why he actually does so poorly.

I have nothing against the guy. I like the guy and have a lot of respect for him. He’s the only candidate with any heart and integrity. He makes a lot of sense and some good ideas, but the fact remains that his visions are short sighted, extreme, and will do more damage to this country than good. I really wish he would learn to work with what he has instead of just trying to send us back to the 1800’s. If he was less extreme there’s no doubt in my mind he would be the next POTUS, but that’s not the case.

Since it’s been brought up before let’s start with the military.

I have no problem with moving out of the middle east, and the current conflict with Iraq. I think that Ron Paul is right in that sense, but he takes it too far when he says he wants to bring back the entire military. This is were people who read and watch less videos start to think he's crazy. This isn't the U.S of old and I think phatman76 said it, but a U.S presence and intervention is required in many areas. Honestly, what does Ron Paul expect to do when he takes down over 700 established bases around the world? We shouldn't have the entire military on border patrol. Not everything the U.S military does is considered bullying.

I didn’t get a single challenge the last time, so feel free to do so. New points/topics are welcome as well. I invite all of you to come forward with questions, and I challenge his supporters to come with evidence as to why he would be a good President.

[Red Tampon]

But Ron Paul

[Omega]

Ron Paul is an internet phenomenon that has swept the nation throughout this election. He has a huge following yet he receives low numbers when it comes to actual voting.

Actually the guy finished 2nd twice, in Nevada and in Louisiana. And the internet goes only so far. The mean age of all voters is somewhere around 40-50. Ron Paul/the internet is mostly appealing to college students and young adults.

[Zero001]

Actually the guy finished 2nd twice, in Nevada and in Louisiana. And the internet goes only so far. The mean age of all voters is somewhere around 40-50. Ron Paul/the internet is mostly appealing to college students and young adults.

That's not the point of this thread.

[Omega]

That's not the point of this thread.

But Ron Paul

[Zero001]

Way to contribute. At least I know where Red stands. You on the other hand support the guy and you can't come up with one logical reason to vote for him.

[Red Tampon]

That would require voting for someone based on reason and not impulsive need for change without thinking about the consequences of said radical change and the fact that said change would never happen because we, unfortunately, have a legislative branch.

So instead of our fellow youth putting this much effort into campaigning for a less radical and idealistic candidate who would appeal to more people on the middle/right side of the spectrum and could actually win, this will simply take away votes from people who would have otherwise voted for a more fiscally conservative candidate (one of Ron Paul's biggest platforms is reforming/getting rid of the IRS, something democrats would rather die than see happen).

These 3rd party votes will give the Democrats slight boost and if they do win by a slight margin, a la Clinton and Ross Perot, we'll all be bitching about the even higher taxes all around and a bigger IRS, along with the loss of other truly Conservative ideals Ron Paul would push for (Hope you're not for gun control and supporting Ron lol). Increased tax not just for the rich, which everyone whines about, but for everyone, be it through increased medicare, social security or income, or all the above, because a bunch of idealistic internet rebels thought they could actually make a change by spamming the internet and voting for a 3rd party.

Do the right thing, start supporting a conservative candidate, unless you somehow think voting for a Democrat would be more inline with Ron Paul (In which case you shouldn't be voting for Ron Paul at all).

/end train of thought run on sentences

[Slavic]

I'm a socialist and I'm voting for Ron Paul : D

[Zero001]

I'm a socialist and I'm voting for Ron Paul : D

So you're only voting for him because you're a socialist? Any valid reason why a non-socialist should vote for him? Come on Slavic. I expected you and Omega to come up with much better stuff.

[Jaffa]

Ron Paul is an internet phenomenon that has swept the nation throughout this election. He has a huge following yet he receives low numbers when it comes to actual voting. So of you may say it’s the media’s fault or it’s the people’s fault for not being open enough to listen to him. I’m starting this thread to educate Ron Paul supporters as to why he actually does so poorly.

I have nothing against the guy. I like the guy and have a lot of respect for him. He’s the only candidate with any heart and integrity. He makes a lot of sense and some good ideas, but the fact remains that his visions are short sighted, extreme, and will do more damage to this country than good. I really wish he would learn to work with what he has instead of just trying to send us back to the 1800’s. If he was less extreme there’s no doubt in my mind he would be the next POTUS, but that’s not the case.

Since it’s been brought up before let’s start with the military.



I didn’t get a single challenge the last time, so feel free to do so. New points/topics are welcome as well. I invite all of you to come forward with questions, and I challenge his supporters to come with evidence as to why he would be a good President.

I'm British so i don't have a vote, but i have been following the primary's etc. The reason that Ron Paul isn't doing as well as what you would expect given the fact he seems to be loved by a large amount of people online is because online what looks like a large following is actually very small compared to the general population of the US, especially considering the fact the internet population is spread across the entire of the voting population of North America (obviously not including Canada and Central America).

On the military side, it was my impression that he wanted to withdraw troops from the many US commitments across the globe. I don't think he wants to withdraw all the troops, but i think he looks at the US strategic situation, and sees that the US has far too large a proportion of its troops stationed in peacekeeping duties (eg. for the UN and NATO), rather than being utilised where they are needed. For example, the US has had troops in Korea for nearly 50 years, and a disproportionate amount of the UN forces in Korea are US troops. The Cold War left the US with far too many commitments to provide troops across the globe, which is why he refers to it as US imperialism (or the US Empire).