machine guns arent fair

[G-Man]

Some servers allow the Para, or otherwise known as machine gun. In most maps, this turns around most of a chance for zombies to win right over to humans. I mean 1 dude could just hold off an army of zombies with a machine gun, its that powerful. Now considering most times, theres about 10 humans in one spot, and most have a para, the zombies have no chance. I remember when it was disabled a while back, the gameplay was much more fair for both sides, not just complete humans raping zombies.
For those who are gonna say "it has slow reload time", its reload time is a second more than other realoads, i timed it. And when you have other people firing when you reload, it covers it up. If only rifles and other weapons are allowed, itd be much more fair, gives zombies a chance and humans still have artilary to use.

And if your against this, because you think its fun getting triple kills against zombies, think of when your a zombie and you cant do shit because 20 humans have machine guns and are spraying bullet all over you and you just have to give in to loss.

SST map could be a fairer map and less human sided if the humans werent given machine guns, as it already is completely human dominated... Your just feeding a full shark food, they dont need it. Most maps that are played regularly lean towards the humans anyway.

[SATAN]

I really dont think thats true, exept SST (and the reason that is, is because the map is so open you can see the zombie coming from a mile away so they cant sneak up on you) most maps are usualy pretty balanced.

Another thing, the only maps i buy machine guns is SST, Space station and Blackmesa, other than those maps i find it useless.

2 guys with machine guns can hold a bunch of zombies, but im pretty sure 2 guys with P90s could too.

[G-Man]

Well, its alos enabled on napalm which is extremely stupid, in maps like cbble, zombies have no chance when humans are on the boxes and all have paras, i dont see why it has to be enabled its completely outraging and stupid. Rifles are powerful but not as stupid, reloading was what helped zombies get humans, but with a 100 bullets per clip, zombie usually die in that clip. Plus the other people around you who have it. It should definitly be disable on sst, no questions about it. But why make the gameplay so unfair.

[Maxwelldon]

If you so want to get rid of Para, aka Machinegun - just leave the server - no one forces you to play.. I agree it's unfair sometimes but most often the reload takes forever and that is what gives zombies chance to even knive you..
Personally I'd limit how many guys per team can get it instead of disabling the gun if there should be any restrictions since I keep hearing people moan, cry and whine about the gun - yet quite a lot wants to keep it

[G-Man]

thats really a stupid post, im not crying or whining, im giving a suggestion and getting opinions, im creating an arguement and backing it up. First off, you dont tell someone to just leave if they arent happy about one thing, instead you give advice to see if it can be handled differently. Ive been playing on ZM longer than you and longer than most admins. And maybe you dont know but the para used to be disabled, and for good reason, and i dont know when it was enabled but now being a zombie has gone from being cool and fun to boring and miserable. However, you make a good idea with the restriction limit. Maybe a few per team. A lot of people like it, because they only think about when they are humans, and how they can get triple kills and survive, more rational people look at the fact that a lot of times they will be zombies and when they are, they usually just have to stand there, or run to try to get the humans, and completely fail.

[Italian Jew]

How about limiting the number of Paras on the map? It is completely fair for the zombies if only a few humans have it as they need a while to reload and are inaccurate most of the time. Limiting it would prevent whoring of the gun by nubs who rely on the quantity of bullets of quality of shots.

[G-Man]

How about limiting the number of Paras on the map? It is completely fair for the zombies if only a few humans have it as they need a while to reload and are inaccurate most of the time. Limiting it would prevent whoring of the gun by nubs who rely on the quantity of bullets of quality of shots.

i agree, but honestly, just getting rid of them isnt that bad. Honestly folks, its not like in cs its either machine gun or pistol, theres always rifles, shotguns, smgs. Rifles are powerful and kinda fun too. Rather than para which is spray and get three cheap kills. But you guys need to really think about the zombies because being a zombie isnt the most exciting thing to play and why ruin it even more by adding cheap weapons to the human side.

[Red Tampon]

Maybe make them an admin/donator only weapon. Hmmmm

[trakaill]

tampon speaks wisely it would limit the amount!! I kinda agree with gman tho killing a zombie with one clip is frustrating. I would not mind seeing machine gun out. But id ont mind them so much

[GrimExistence]

that be cool