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Suri
22 Apr 2008, 09:47am
Ok i am wanting to build a new PC. There are a few gaming coming out that I want to play, and i can't do that on my laptop. Would love feedback. I also need to keep the price down.


CPU link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029 $189.99

Motherboard link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196 $149.99

Video Card link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082 $144
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252 $179

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134218 $64

Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024 $119

HD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136161 $64

raven maniac
22 Apr 2008, 09:57am
aww your pc owns my pc :'(

looks good though suri ^.^ I've had 2 EVGA fans burn out on me so i'd go with xfx. They have a lifetime warranty I think, and I read on reviews of xfx that their cards come stock oc'd so that would be good as well :D

Suri
22 Apr 2008, 10:27am
I did find a XFX card i liked. So i might go with that. Thanks for the feedback. I did not know that they had a lifetime warranty. Thats nice to know.

Itch
22 Apr 2008, 10:29am
I have had 2 different XFX cards now.. and they do have lifetime warranties which comes in handy.

As for the system - Looks good.. it'll be a month or two and I'll be buying myself a new one. You'll have to tell me how it turns out.

Red
22 Apr 2008, 10:33am
I'm in the same boat Suri. My XPS Laptop was once uber, but not uber enough for the new games out today.

Check out this build. Thanks to Zero001 for this build list, no case or hd though.

BFG Performance Bundle (GeForce 8800 GT OC + 650W PSU)
http://www.bfgstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BFGPERFBNDL&CartID=1
$250 shipped

Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Processor Q6600
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5101696
$200 shipped

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
$90

SAMSUNG DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153
$30

mushkin 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146731
$80 - $30mir = $50

Total shipped ≈ $660


Thanks to Zero001 for this

Suri
22 Apr 2008, 10:38am
Oh wow Red thanks. I might use your build. If no one knows Red and I have the same Laptop. I went to a site the other day that tells you if you can run a game. And man did it EPIC FAIL!! :)

Is it good to do a Mobo/CPU combo? I want to make sure i build something that will last a few years, but not brake my bank account.

There is a Computer place next door to where i work. You can not buy from them unless you have a account with them and you must be a company. Well The company i work for has an account with them. So i am going to take that list and see if they have it. And if they do i can get it cheaper and no shipping:) Lets hope They have what I need.

I also still need to sell my DS. Only have 300 bucks right now to buy stuff.

Suri
22 Apr 2008, 10:57am
You know what sucks.

If this Pc is going to run me about $700, and i sold my 360 for $300, and asking about $110 for my DS. That will leave me about $300 bucks to make up.

And i only have 2 things left i could sell. My old 20gig 4thgen Ipod. ( Not sure what i could get for that) OR my brand new 18gig iPod Touch that i love. I paid $400 for it.

We are getting that extra tax money of about $1500, but that has to go to pay the Bill for having our Child. Man it sucks to grow up and not have money for cool stuff you want. :(

Itch
22 Apr 2008, 11:07am
You know what sucks.

If this Pc is going to run be about $700, and i sold my 360 for $300, and asking about $110 for my DS. That will leave me about $300 bucks to make up.

And i only have 2 things left i could sell. My old 20gig 4thgen Ipod. ( Not sure what i could get for that) OR my brand new 18gig iPod Touch that i love. I paid $400 for it.

We are getting that extra tax money of about $1500, but that has to go to pay the Bill for having our Child. Man it sucks to grow up and not have money for cool stuff you want. :(

Welcome to the real world..
Unfortunately kids will just keep getting more expensive the older they get.
Why do you think I'm still gaming on a 4 year old rig. :blushing:
suddenly a swingset is more important than a new video card..

Good luck working out the funds to cover the rest of the new PC. I'm in the process of selling one of my motorcycles to pay for a new gaming rig and to finish my basement.. sometimes we gotta make sacrifices.

Zero001
22 Apr 2008, 11:38am
Red beat me to it, but I'll elaborate.

Red
22 Apr 2008, 11:51am
Red beat me to it, but I'll elaborate.

LOL, I looked down your post expecting a big elaboration. Guess you're working on it.

Suri
22 Apr 2008, 11:58am
LOL, I looked down your post expecting a big elaboration. Guess you're working on it.

I was going to say the same thing. I started to 2nd guess what elaborate meant. Then i was like WAIT Zero where is your Elaboration:)

Zero001
22 Apr 2008, 11:59am
CPU: Spend $10 extra dollars and get a quad core. Link (http://shop4.outpost.com/product/5101696)

Motherboard: Good choice it's a good performer at it's price range, but it might be overkill for your needs. Consider buying a GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059), it will still overclock and it compatible with 45nm chips if you decide to upgrade at one point.

Memory: Unless you're heavy into overclocking you won't see any significant difference by using DDR2 1066, especially on a 65nm chip. You're better off buying twice as much DDR2 800 for a little more Option 1 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146731) Option 2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122)

HDD: Not a bad choice, only you can determine how much space you'll need. Just consider for an extra $25 you get double the space Link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136178)

Case & Power Supply: I am extremely paranoid about power supplies. I never recommend using a power supply that came with a case. There is no sense in using a cheap power supply to power an expensive system. You risk loosing all of your hardware if it goes bad.

Case options: Classic (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068) or Trendy (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025).

Power Supply: Standard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005) or Modular (http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w-sli-certified-modular-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/203270716.html)

Video Cards: I would recommend a 9600GT over and 320MB 8800GTS, but the 8800 GT is the best card under $200. The ATI 3870 would sit in the middle.

The best choice right now would be Link (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130319). Use coupon code "EMCAECCCE" to knock $20 off of it if you're a newegg subscriber. It's slightly faster than the XFX and shipped free. Both XFX and EVGA have lifetime warranties.

The BFG Bundle (http://www.bfgstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BFGPERFBNDL&CartID=1), I gave Red is also a very good choice of PS and GPU.

Shop around. New Egg is very competitive, but there are other reliable e-tailer's which sometimes offer better deals. Always keep shipping price in mind.

Zero001
22 Apr 2008, 12:07pm
Yeah, I was still writing. Prices are always changing so I have to look around. The Q6600 was actually $180 shipped last week. They're supposed to be dropping to at least $206 at all stores this week via the Intel price drop. All chips are dropping between $2-$45.

If you can drive into the CompUSA in Orlando you can find good cases and you won't have to pay the shipping on the Cooler Master case. $5 tax beats $20 shipping.

Suri
22 Apr 2008, 12:30pm
Zero thanks for all the input. Yeah the CompUSA is only 30 mins away from where i live. But there is a wholesale place next to my work i think i might try first. They sell all the same crap that Newegg sells, but cheaper and no shipping:) I am just going to take your list and see what they say.

Suri
22 Apr 2008, 04:28pm
Hey Zero i may have a mission for you:)

www.acw.net is the place next to my work where i may want to buy the stuff.

Can you take a look on their site and see if you can put something together thats nice?

I just get overwhelmed when i look for stuff like this. I am going to put my list together and see if it matches yours:)
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Crap i cant get prices unless i log in. So dont worry about it. I need to call my boss and see if i can even log in

Modgers1
22 Apr 2008, 07:20pm
My opinion on cases, is that they're not worth it unless the vendor throws in a decent PSU (450 W and up). I'm glad you found a good buy.

-Modgers

Zero001
22 Apr 2008, 08:31pm
This build is just under $690 shipped. It should be under $635 shipped after mail in rebates and it won't piss you off a year from now. Down the road, you will be able to upgrade to a quad core or the current 45nm cpu's if you decide to. You can build a better AMD system for a couple more dollars, but you won't be able to upgrade it.

- DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151154) $31
- Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025) $70
- Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073) $90
- Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121229) $150
- Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010) $80
- RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122) $75
- Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059) $90
- CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116070) $90

Senior
22 Apr 2008, 08:35pm
You know what sucks.

If this Pc is going to run me about $700, and i sold my 360 for $300, and asking about $110 for my DS. That will leave me about $300 bucks to make up.

And i only have 2 things left i could sell. My old 20gig 4thgen Ipod. ( Not sure what i could get for that) OR my brand new 18gig iPod Touch that i love. I paid $400 for it.

We are getting that extra tax money of about $1500, but that has to go to pay the Bill for having our Child. Man it sucks to grow up and not have money for cool stuff you want. :(

you could sell the current laptop youre using :tongue_smilie:

Suri
23 Apr 2008, 06:58am
I think i like that last setup Zero. I will have to buy things here and there for the next month. I might just get the CPU and MOBO first, and the video card. And then get all the other stuff here and there.


I cant sell my laptop. Well i could if i sold it for $1,500 bucks. I got screwed with some lame deal they where doing. When i get done paying for it i would have paid for it twice.

But i think i have talked my wife into letting me pick her PC apart for parts. And if i do that i dont have to buy a new OS. I just got her Vista not to long ago.

Suri
23 Apr 2008, 12:03pm
This build is just under $690 shipped. It should be under $635 shipped after mail in rebates and it won't piss you off a year from now. Down the road, you will be able to upgrade to a quad core or the current 45nm cpu's if you decide to. You can build a better AMD system for a couple more dollars, but you won't be able to upgrade it.

- DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151154) $31
- Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025) $70
- Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073) $90
- Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121229) $150
- Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010) $80
- RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122) $75
- Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059) $90
- CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116070) $90

If i dont have to buy the HD and Rom I can get this for $569 after shipping:)

Since i am coming in a bit cheaper do you think i should upgrade any one of those items Zero?

Red
23 Apr 2008, 12:09pm
I'd say upgrade the CPU to the Quad 6600 or the Vid card to the 8800GT

Zero001
23 Apr 2008, 12:19pm
If i dont have to buy the HD and Rom I can get this for $569 after shipping:)

Since i am coming in a bit cheaper do you think i should upgrade any one of those items Zero?

It depends how much more you want to spend. I wouldn't really say it's worth upgrading from a 9600GT to an 8800GT unless there was a good sale on it, which there currently isn't. If you feel like waiting on a rebate the 8800GTS (G92) for under $200 is a great deal. Only other thing I can think of investing in is the CPU . $200 for a quad core (http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5101696) or a 45nm Wolfdale (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037).

The Wolfdale will run cooler, uses less energy, and if you don't overclock will be faster in about 95% of normal operations. If you use rendering programs then go for the quad. The majority of programs and games still don't take advantage of multi-threading so dual is still the standard. A year from now things could change, so the quad can be looked as an investment especially if you overclock down the road.

Suri
23 Apr 2008, 12:30pm
So my Total will go from $569 to $664 with the Quad up grade. Hmmmmm Man so many options. And I still like this price. Thank you zero and Red for helping me out on this.

Zero001
23 Apr 2008, 12:33pm
The only other option I see, is to having everything pre-built. For $500 this is a good deal Link (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?CS=19&kc=6VAFF&oc=DDDWDG4&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643). Just drop in your own video card.

Con: Motherboard sucks ass and you'll never be able to overclock the Dell
Pro: In a year you can replace the motherboard, which the next gen of cpu's will probably require anyway

Con: I have no idea what kind of power supply they stick in there
Pro: It can probably handle a 9600GT since it doesn't use up as much power as the 8800's

Con: RAM = DDR2 667
Pro: A year from now DDR3 might be the standard and you might replace it anyway

Pro: Comes with an Operating System and HDD
Con: Might be the Dell bloatware CD and you won't be able to use it on another PC

Pro: Your wife gets to keep her PC


EDIT: Even comes with mouse and keyboard, so it is very complete. First builds are always the most expensive because you have to invest in all the extra parts. This is kind of a way around it.

Suri
23 Apr 2008, 12:44pm
The only other option I see, is to having everything pre-built. For $500 this is a good deal Link (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?CS=19&kc=6VAFF&oc=DDDWDG4&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643). Just drop in your own video card.

Con: Motherboard sucks ass and you'll never be able to overclock the Dell
Pro: In a year you can replace the motherboard, which the next gen of cpu's will probably require anyway

Con: I have no idea what kind of power supply they stick in there
Pro: It can probably handle a 9600GT since it doesn't use up as much power as the 8800's

Con: RAM = DDR2 667
Pro: A year from now DDR3 might be the standard and you might replace it anyway

Pro: Comes with an Operating System and HDD
Con: Might be the Dell bloatware CD and you won't be able to use it on another PC

Pro: Your wife gets to keep her PC

I think i may still build one. I am about to get a Mac Book Pro from church, and she can always use that too. So i am just going to take hers (mine before we got married) and Scrap it for parts.

Z3r0 M4ni4c
23 Apr 2008, 01:58pm
Man if i buy in the USA im cheaper there then here in the netherlands.

But what almost the same configuration i have for my pc only the cpu and vidcard are better.

I have 4 gb of memory ;).

But definitly buy the Quadcore its way better then dual core. :thumbup:

Captain Colon
23 Apr 2008, 03:36pm
A Q6600 quad-core is definitely worth the extra money. I'd stick with eVGA...like someone else said, the XFX stuff tends to come from the factory OC'd. As much as this sounds like a good more-bang-fo'-yo-buck thing, it really isn't because it shortens the chip's useful life and also increases the power demands of the card. OCing should be left up to the end user that knows what they're doing or has the money to buy new cards after they fry their old ones.

Looks like you've already got this covered, but NEVER skimp on your power supply. Always buy from reputable manufacturers and check the current capacity of each rail if it has multiple 12V rails. A power supply with a single 12V rail is best (with multiple rails you may run into the issue of having enough total power to run everything, but your super-mega-awesome video card takes more power than any of the single rails can provide) but those tend to be expensive. Cheap power supplies = inconsistent power delivery = fried components.

Suri
23 Apr 2008, 03:40pm
Thanks for the input Colon. I hope to place a order on Friday for some of these things.

535cheetah
25 Apr 2008, 01:36am
see you may have to pay for having the kid right now but ... in the years to come its a nice tax return for having a kid :) my son bought most of my computer i just built a few months ago. * ( as seen in forums ... post your system pics, page 15)

i would go for the wolfdale 45nm thats what i got and love it !!

as far as a case goes, TRY and get something with a fan on the side... nuthin worse then all new stuff runnin slow cuz its to hot or worse.. wrecking it. a fan on the side of the case will blow nice kool air directly on your hard working buddies.


my final opinion .. WAIT... save up the money lil by lil and get something that will last a while, i know you dont wanna but it would benefit you in the long run.

Captain Colon
25 Apr 2008, 05:15am
If you're gonna use a side fan then make sure your rear fan is set up as an exhaust fan, this'll give you a nice set up of air coming in the side (and front if you want to get a front fan too) then rising as it heats up and going out the back, instead of coming in the back and warming up and then getting pushed into the 5-1/4" bays until it cools enough to sink.

But really, it doesn't matter that much as long as all the components that need fans have fans and the hot air has a way out. Don't skimp on your thermal paste, go for arctic silver! I've never seen the temp on my quad core go past 50C with it and this cooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200026).

Suri
25 Apr 2008, 03:43pm
Well i would not mind saving up lil by lil and getting something really nice. But there is a game coming out next month that i have to play, and i need to build the new Rig to play it:)

535cheetah
25 Apr 2008, 06:14pm
what game?

Suri
27 Apr 2008, 03:06pm
Conan

Red
29 Apr 2008, 05:08pm
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3671/photo042908001fa8.jpg

Just waiting on the case!!

Can't wait :laugh:

Suri
29 Apr 2008, 05:19pm
Nice. I should be getting my stuff in on Thursday or Friday. But i still do need to order my Video card, case and PS.

But dang that VC box looks sexy!!!

Suri
1 May 2008, 03:45pm
I got 4 of my items today. I will post a picture later.

I think i may go buy the other 3 items at compusa so i can get it now and not wait for shipping.

Red
1 May 2008, 08:09pm
Formatting HD right now to install XP.

Fucking torture

Suri
2 May 2008, 09:16am
Here is what i got right now. The PS is in the mail. And now i am just waiting on buying the Video Card. I have 70 bucks right now, so just waiting till next payday to order it. Compusa had crap for cards.


http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/suricruise/IMG_5964.jpg

Itch
2 May 2008, 09:29am
Ok.. so I'm in the market to replace my abused system (currently has 5 distended capacitors: but somehow keeps running)

I already have a dual layer DVD burner and 500 GB sata hd as well as a friend hooked me up with some free DDR 2 RAM..

OCZ Gold 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit

If I have about $700 - $900 to spend and want to get the most bang for the buck..

What would you recommend for the following.

Case-
Power Supply-
Motherboard-
Proc-
Video Card-
Sound Card-

Your input is appreciated.

Red
2 May 2008, 01:05pm
Here's what Suri and I just bought.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/PublicWishDetail.asp?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=11315307

Without the monitor it's 850, and since you already have some free components, you could go for an uber graphics card in place of the 8800gt that we bought.

Zero001
2 May 2008, 01:19pm
Ok.. so I'm in the market to replace my abused system (currently has 5 distended capacitors: but somehow keeps running)

I already have a dual layer DVD burner and 500 GB sata hd as well as a friend hooked me up with some free DDR 2 RAM..

OCZ Gold 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit

If I have about $700 - $900 to spend and want to get the most bang for the buck..

What would you recommend for the following.

Case-
Power Supply-
Motherboard-
Proc-
Video Card-
Sound Card-

Your input is appreciated.

Considering you already have some important and expensive pieces to a build $700-$900 will go a long way. What are you looking for in your build? What do you normally use your PC for?

Itch
2 May 2008, 01:22pm
I normally use my laptop for work.. so this is strictly for gaming.

Phobos
2 May 2008, 04:36pm
Ok i am wanting to build a new PC. There are a few gaming coming out that I want to play, and i can't do that on my laptop. Would love feedback. I also need to keep the price down.


CPU link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029 $189.99

Motherboard link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196 $149.99

Video Card link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082 $144
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252 $179

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134218 $64

Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024 $119

HD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136161 $64

I'd get a 9600GT if I were you. The 320mb one is slower by a little bit, and hogs a lot more space.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130334 eVGA might also offer a 3-month stepup program, which means you can exchange that product with a newer one in that price range like they did with my 8800gts 512mb g92

Zero001
3 May 2008, 03:57am
There's a lot wrong with IanH's build. The CPU is slightly outdated, the Wolfdale or a Quad for an extra $20 would be a much better investment. He already mentioned he has RAM and a HDD. I wouldn't power my rig with what comes with the case. He has $700-$900 to spend might as well go all out on a higher end video cards.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068)
Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059)
Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005)

I'll post my reasons later on.

Phobos
3 May 2008, 11:19am
There's a lot wrong with IanH's build. The CPU is slightly outdated, the Wolfdale or a Quad for an extra $20 would be a much better investment. He already mentioned he has RAM and a HDD. I wouldn't power my rig with what comes with the case. He has $700-$900 to spend might as well go all out on a higher end video cards.

CPU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068)
Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325)
Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059)
Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005)

I'll post my reasons later on.
Zero, I have a 45nm cpu with my DFI mobo.
This is my setup: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/PublicWishDetail.asp?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=7408851 (already had the gfx card/hdd so it turned out to be under $700)

There's nothing wrong with DFIs and my wolfdale core. My DFI was just DOA. :\

Zero001
3 May 2008, 01:03pm
Zero, I have a 45nm cpu with my DFI mobo.
This is my setup: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/PublicWishDetail.asp?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=7408851 (already had the gfx card/hdd so it turned out to be under $700)

There's nothing wrong with DFIs and my wolfdale core. My DFI was just DOA. :\

I wasn't saying there was something wrong with your computer, I was talking about your suggestion. Why would you suggest the E6750 over the over the E8400? The price difference is minimal, and with the kind of money he wants to spend not a big deal. An E8400 or a Q6600 will make a great chip for his PC.

The reason I don't want to suggest dumping extra money on a motherboard is because, there is going to be a socket change at the end of the year. Any motherboard available right now will be obsolete. The one I suggested is more than enough to run any CPU out currently out on the market, and it's a good overclocker.

Case is personal preference so he can pick what he wants, and my video card suggestion is enough to run Crysis on high. If he wants to spend $100 more a 9800GTX would be 1337. I didn't suggest a sound card because the AC-1 is currently overpriced, it's been as low as $60 and Creative is currently being boycotted by the mod community.

NIKO
3 May 2008, 02:03pm
I demand that Zero001 changes hit tag from VP to CPU GURU.

NIKO
3 May 2008, 05:42pm
I just realized that Red, suri and I are going to have the same mobo ram, and HD, only difference is CPU and case. Its just kinda funny to me, but atleast we all know we will have reliable rigs

Phobos
9 May 2008, 10:27pm
I wasn't saying there was something wrong with your computer, I was talking about your suggestion. Why would you suggest the E6750 over the over the E8400? The price difference is minimal, and with the kind of money he wants to spend not a big deal. An E8400 or a Q6600 will make a great chip for his PC.

The reason I don't want to suggest dumping extra money on a motherboard is because, there is going to be a socket change at the end of the year. Any motherboard available right now will be obsolete. The one I suggested is more than enough to run any CPU out currently out on the market, and it's a good overclocker.

Case is personal preference so he can pick what he wants, and my video card suggestion is enough to run Crysis on high. If he wants to spend $100 more a 9800GTX would be 1337. I didn't suggest a sound card because the AC-1 is currently overpriced, it's been as low as $60 and Creative is currently being boycotted by the mod community.

I never said to get anything over an e8400/q6600, I think those are the best for your money.

Zero001
9 May 2008, 11:13pm
I never said to get anything over an e8400/q6600, I think those are the best for your money.

:confused1:
You suggested an E6750, not a Q6600 or an E8400. I was the one stating they were better deals.

Phobos
10 May 2008, 12:24am
:confused1:
You suggested an E6750, not a Q6600 or an E8400. I was the one stating they were better deals.

Please quote me where I said that, I cannot find it. :S

Suri
10 May 2008, 07:48am
I finished my build yesterday. (Waiting on video card to come) And everything seemed to be working fine. AND THEN!!!! Audio issues from HELL!!!

I had placed a old video card in the rig untill the new one came. I also took the SBA2 ZS from my old gaming rig from a few years ago. Well the Video card started to act up like it did in the past. I am guessing its dieing a slow death. (DO to a crappy PS and airflow in the old rig) And then the audio would not work and sound choppy when in vent.

It also crashed my pc when pluging the mic into the back. Also the front ports would not work on the tower. After an hour of Raven and I trying to fix it. I just took out the SBA2 and went with the onboard sound. TADA!!! It started working great. The front ports even started working.

I would rather use a sound card, but it seems that the on board is not a bad setup too. I really need my front ports to work.

Red i know you have the same MOBO. Are you using the onboard audio?

Red
10 May 2008, 08:40am
Hell yeah I'm using the on board.

I just used the included drivers and it worked like a charm.

I don't really see the need for additional sound cards anymore. I'm using headsets most of the time anyways.

Zero001
10 May 2008, 10:10am
Please quote me where I said that, I cannot find it. :S

Look at post #43 on this thread. You suggest an E6750, and don't mention anything about the E8400/Q6600 until after I posted about it. [/end] I'm not going to argue with you.

Zero001
10 May 2008, 10:25am
I finished my build yesterday. (Waiting on video card to come) And everything seemed to be working fine. AND THEN!!!! Audio issues from HELL!!!

I had placed a old video card in the rig untill the new one came. I also took the SBA2 ZS from my old gaming rig from a few years ago. Well the Video card started to act up like it did in the past. I am guessing its dieing a slow death. (DO to a crappy PS and airflow in the old rig) And then the audio would not work and sound choppy when in vent.

It also crashed my pc when pluging the mic into the back. Also the front ports would not work on the tower. After an hour of Raven and I trying to fix it. I just took out the SBA2 and went with the onboard sound. TADA!!! It started working great. The front ports even started working.

I would rather use a sound card, but it seems that the on board is not a bad setup too. I really need my front ports to work.

Red i know you have the same MOBO. Are you using the onboard audio?

The problem might be the drivers. Try this:

- Link (http://digiex.net/drivers/164-creative-audigy-series-vista-32bit-x86-vista-64bit-x64-drivers-daniel_k.html)

Creative Vista drivers are really shitty, hence the boycott against their products. About a month ago I learned about custom drivers through an article. Creative ended up banning daniel_k for creating drivers that actually worked properly on Vista. You can read about it here:

- link 1 (http://www.dailytech.com/Creative+Says+Custom+Drivers+Are+Stealing+Gets+Roc ked+by+Protests/article11297.htm)
- link 2 (http://www.dailytech.com/DanielK+Reaches+Out+to+Supporters+Creative+Respond s+To+Backlash/article11330.htm)

Anyway, the custom drivers are much better. I always thought my headphones were limiting me, but after installing them sounds were a lot more crisp and volumes were more natural. I don't have to crank it up as much to get the same sound.

Suri
10 May 2008, 01:59pm
Thanks Red and Zero. I will look into those drivers. But i think i might be happy with the on board sound. It's really not that bad at all. And every thing is working now, so i don't want to mess with that:)