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Phobos
9 Apr 2008, 12:43am
Hey Guise, I'm going to be upgrading to a new computer, and I'd like you guys to criticize me.

Case: NZXT Lexa Blackline (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811146038)
Mobo: DFI LP LT P35 T2R LGA 775 Intel P35 Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136039)
CPU: Intel Xeon E3110 Wolfdale 3.0GHz (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819117165)
RAM: OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820227267)
PSU: hec ACE580 ATX12V 580W (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817339006)

Newegg (<3) Subtotal: $669.95

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/PublicWishDetail.asp?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=7408851
Total setup

I already have my graphics card, an eVGA nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 512mb G92 + Crysis. :P

Not bad, eh?

Zero001
9 Apr 2008, 02:06am
Not bad, but what made you decide to go with the Xeon version of the e8400 and that motherboard? I think you could've done better for less, but overall it's still a powerful machine.

Red
9 Apr 2008, 09:33am
damn that's pretty cheap. I'm gonna build a new one this month too.

I might follow suit, but go with the e8400 as zero says.

LegalSmash
9 Apr 2008, 09:36am
Go with quad. future planning ftw.

Phobos
9 Apr 2008, 03:27pm
Well why should I go with non-Xeon? It's the same CPU under a better quality brand. O_o;

And for Quad, I already have a comp that has a quad core, but I don't really care much about it since the extra 2 cores are rarely supported in most apps.

tosh9i
10 Apr 2008, 01:47pm
Well why should I go with non-Xeon? It's the same CPU under a better quality brand. O_o;

And for Quad, I already have a comp that has a quad core, but I don't really care much about it since the extra 2 cores are rarely supported in most apps.

That's true. In my opinion, the only "real difference" between a dual core and a quad core is the "price".

And for the record, Six Core processors should be coming out in a couple of months. Even though, I don't think it'll do any good for gamers like us.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Sixcore_Intel_processors_coming_this_year/1205790710



"Gaming on Quad-Cores
04 11th, 2007 After speaking with many developers including some big names, we learned that they can’t make much sense out of quad or more core CPUs. They confirm that they can put two cores to good use but not much more. The main problem is that the performance is far from scalable. You have to spend both time and money to resource the programmer to try to make sense out f the dual core CPU. It takes up to a year to optimise the game for more threads and even if you make the perfect job you can count on twenty to thirty percent performance increase, and this is the best case scenario. Once you start making the multi threaded game you end up making and having the multithreaded bugs as well.

You can keep one core busy with the physics and collision detection, second core will have to wait for the score to move on with the Artificial intelligence while the third core could possible calculate the graphic data. In this best case scenario you have to realise that the core number two and three would always have to wait for the core number one to finish its job and pass the job to the cores two and three. In this concept there is absolutely no place for quad core as games are non parallel applications. A game developer expert said that you can use the core number four to stream and load the data in the game and this is what the guys at Remedy did at IDF quad core demonstration. But this takes time and money and it is not commonly embraced by developers.

Game developers are in the dawn of dual core programming and now all the sudden AMD and Intel wants them to go quad core. For the time being Quad cores are good for rendering and serves but not for games. So if you want to play games, you can forget about quad cores, you simply don’t need them and can gain just marginal performance out of them. Give the developers some time and this might change, but we are talking quarters not months. My feeling is that game developers will come around and optimize for these new super face quads. "

http://quadcorefaq.com/category/uncategorized/

VirDeBello
10 Apr 2008, 04:17pm
Actually AMD and Intel are onto 8 cores, screw that 6 core crap lol :w00t:

tosh9i
10 Apr 2008, 09:16pm
"The Intel Core 2 Extreme processor QX9775 is available now at an MSRP of $1,499 each. Estimated street pricing for the Intel Desktop Board D5400XS is $649."

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20080219comp.htm


Well, for that price, I think I'll pass. Especially, since most games don't know how to utilize multiple processors.

Rea¦per
11 Apr 2008, 06:10pm
Hey Guise, I'm going to be upgrading to a new computer, and I'd like you guys to criticize me.

Case: NZXT Lexa Blackline (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811146038)
Mobo: DFI LP LT P35 T2R LGA 775 Intel P35 Intel Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136039)
CPU: Intel Xeon E3110 Wolfdale 3.0GHz (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819117165)
RAM: OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820227267)
PSU: hec ACE580 ATX12V 580W (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817339006)

Newegg (<3) Subtotal: $669.95

I already have my graphics card, an eVGA nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 512mb G92 + Crysis. :P

Not bad, eh?

Mutha f****r stole my PC case!!!!:001_tt2:

hahaha JK with ya man, its a great case to work with, still need to figure out how to get the built-in heat sensors workin though. Have fun with it

Swizzy *B*
14 Apr 2008, 03:40am
What kind of OS will you be running?

Phobos
14 Apr 2008, 08:15am
What kind of OS will you be running?

I normally DualBoot windows with ubuntu, and I'm probably going to use XP MCE.

And what's wrong with Xeon? I know it's the same thing, but it also can undervolt better and has a bad-ass name brand to back itself up.

Zero001
14 Apr 2008, 09:21am
Well why should I go with non-Xeon? It's the same CPU under a better quality brand. O_o;



And what's wrong with Xeon? I know it's the same thing, but it also can undervolt better and has a bad-ass name brand to back itself up.

You said it yourself it's the same CPU and they're both made by Intel, so how is the brand any different? Intel chip Intel quality. They don't treat home and server consumers any different. The x3110 runs on slightly less voltage so it produces less heat in a server environment, which is not a big deal when it's just one home PC. With that being said the e8400 runs slightly faster in normal everyday use. There is no significant difference in them. It's either .0** less volts with the x3110 or a >3&#37; improvement with the e8400.

Phobos
1 May 2008, 11:21pm
Well, I got all my parts in, and all I have left to do is flash my mobo's bios to support my wolfdale core and reinstall steam n css... so expect to see me (Phobos) again this weekend! :D

PICS so far:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x130/CSPhobos/My&#37;20New%20PC/DSCN3052.jpg

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x130/CSPhobos/My%20New%20PC/DSCN3051.jpg

(After I get everything finalized, I can start strapping my cables so they don't look so messy)

Oh, and the unboxing of everything was like CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOT.

Red
1 May 2008, 11:52pm
I just put together my new system tonight.

I'm installing CSS as I write this.

It indeed feels like xmas

Phobos
2 May 2008, 05:38pm
Hah grats! Unfortunately, I'm nowhere near my computer atm so I don't have a chance yet to flash my bios before I reinstall my stuff.

Phobos
3 May 2008, 09:05am
FFS. I'm getting told my mobo is DOA because it's thowing out Jibberish on the post code LED display

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x130/CSPhobos/My&#37;20New%20PC/DSCN3053.jpg

*sigh*

Red
3 May 2008, 11:45am
That blows ass. Hopefully you can exchange it?

Phobos
9 May 2008, 10:29pm
That blows ass. Hopefully you can exchange it?
Yup. Got my 2nd mobo today, still having problems, cept this time, I think it could be the PSU. The Diagnostic LCD isn't even turning on this time... bad luck for me. :(

Zero001
9 May 2008, 11:35pm
It could be a conflict with your CPU. Xeons are pickier, about their boards. I doubt thats whats happening, but that could be the case. Call and find out if the X3110 is supported on that board. It might just need a BIOS update.

Phobos
10 May 2008, 12:23am
It could be a conflict with your CPU. Xeons are pickier, about their boards. I doubt thats whats happening, but that could be the case. Call and find out if the X3110 is supported on that board. It might just need a BIOS update.

It is supported, and I can't even get to the point where I can update the bios because it isnt working with any 775 cpu atm. I'm gonna try another PSU tomorrow. It's just bad luck for me.

EDIT-

HAH. MY dumb arse this time just forgot to put in the other power connection to the mobo. LOL.