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LegalSmash
7 Apr 2010, 05:23am
http://www.frumforum.com/how-the-gop-purged-me

Kuro
10 Apr 2010, 03:48am
its weird to think of republicans past nixon and reagan. especially for this generation. My generation? I'm not sure anyone could pinpoint what that one thing was that changed our nations thought process into this.... idiot machine? I too feel certain levels of disgust with the democratic party, my party. I feel i can separate religion from politics unlike some. I'm catholic raised and i believe women have the right to choose and that gays should be allowed to marry. Whether its wrong or right im finding a good majority of my fellow Catholics disagreeing with me, which puzzles me. Where do we put our voices when we dont like option A or B. Hopefully this religious zealot-ism is a sign of a dying age, desperately trying to take that one last breath before its gone completely.

Shadowex3
10 Apr 2010, 05:01am
You want a real brainbreaker read back before world war 2. Pre-WW2 the parties had the same names but were effectively reversed, so democrats were the southern conservative party and republicans were somewhat analogous to the modern centrist democrats.

Makes a lot more sense when you remember that while thinking of Teddy Roosevelt as a republican back then.

Itch
13 Apr 2010, 08:56am
Finally got time to read this article. Excellent find. I think that sums up where a lot of long time republicans stand now.

SgtJoo
13 Apr 2010, 09:34am
You want a real brainbreaker read back before world war 2. Pre-WW2 the parties had the same names but were effectively reversed, so democrats were the southern conservative party and republicans were somewhat analogous to the modern centrist democrats.

Makes a lot more sense when you remember that while thinking of Teddy Roosevelt as a republican back then.

Not really a brainbreaker. Standard curriculum in US History classes. :laugh:

Shadowex3
14 Apr 2010, 06:39pm
Not really a brainbreaker. Standard curriculum in US History classes. :laugh:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100401/pl_mcclatchy/3466905

SgtJoo
14 Apr 2010, 07:47pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100401/pl_mcclatchy/3466905

Texas =/= the US

Although with that recent B.S. with their textbooks and the fact companies cater to them, who knows? I saw that article when it came out, pissed me off so much. But for the time being, it's standard curriculum in US History classes. My teachers in high school also put in outside information that wasn't in the textbook as supplements; I'd also like to think that teachers teach all information with as little bias as possible.

Kuro
14 Apr 2010, 11:46pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100401/pl_mcclatchy/3466905

oh gawd dont get us started on that

Shadowex3
15 Apr 2010, 07:39pm
Texas =/= the US

Although with that recent B.S. with their textbooks and the fact companies cater to them, who knows? I saw that article when it came out, pissed me off so much. But for the time being, it's standard curriculum in US History classes. My teachers in high school also put in outside information that wasn't in the textbook as supplements; I'd also like to think that teachers teach all information with as little bias as possible.

Texas DOES = the US in this case. They are such an influential market to the producers that they have de facto control over textbook choices for pretty much the rest of the country, it's well documented if you care to look for yourself.

SgtJoo
16 Apr 2010, 05:09am
Texas DOES = the US in this case. They are such an influential market to the producers that they have de facto control over textbook choices for pretty much the rest of the country, it's well documented if you care to look for yourself.

Well AP classes are different than other classes, so students looking for a better education going into college will have different textbooks for those classes. I read what the article said about tailoring needs for Texas, but I find it hard to believe one state has so much influence.

Shadowex3
16 Apr 2010, 07:02pm
My AP US History textbook glossed over indian removal, claimed that the image of abusive slave owners was basically a myth, and droned on about how the confederates had good reasons for what they did. It referred to Theodore Roosevelt as an unimportant president outside of establishing forests, and hinted that the New Deal was socialism.

SgtJoo
17 Apr 2010, 07:16am
My AP US History textbook glossed over indian removal, claimed that the image of abusive slave owners was basically a myth, and droned on about how the confederates had good reasons for what they did. It referred to Theodore Roosevelt as an unimportant president outside of establishing forests, and hinted that the New Deal was socialism.

Don't know what kind of AP book y'all were reading. Mine did basically the exact opposite. That's really strange... what state do you live in?

Shadowex3
17 Apr 2010, 01:11pm
Central Florida, not even the redneck parts.

SgtJoo
17 Apr 2010, 03:52pm
Central Florida, not even the redneck parts.

That's strange... my AP book was in depth and neutral imo. I wonder if the school district decides which version to use, and how different they are. I'd be interested to see a comparison between the bias in information, especially since they all are supposed to present correct information that's uniform to the AP exams.

Intelligence
17 Apr 2010, 08:28pm
Read the first 3 words and fell asleep. jkin.

Its very long.the first sentance does sum you up.

Italian Jew
17 Apr 2010, 08:38pm
Read the first 3 words and fell asleep.

Then don't post?