Why we are not going to use No-Block

[Daze]

No Block



I've seen too many threads, this is long overdue. For reference on what the hell I'm talking about see here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17397), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19349), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18062), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20634), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20777), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19621), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21088) & here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20734).

No-block will not be added to Escape, Top-10-maps & Napalm for any maps unless in extreme circumstances. It alters the game balance and has way too many implications to work well.

The main reasons:


It's pretty simple actually.

- Zombies need to boost sometimes
- Humans need to boost sometimes (like at the end of Blackmesa).
- Choke spots will be rendered useless because zombies can just run through eachother
- Then we have the running through a person as a zombie and missing a stab at them
- Also places where one or two humans could usually fit will be flooded. Like the secret elevator or licciana however you spell it lol---- that makes it impossible for zombies to win.
- Grenades it's really annoying having a friend jump into you when you're about to throw a damn grenade.
- Fairness For all we know four people with m249s could crowd in each other in a corner and just shoot off zombies for the whole map.


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Any new threads made discussing old issues will be deleted without warning. Ignorance is not an excuse.

[The Baltimore Ravens]

thank GOD, finally somthing like this:partydance:

[Shadow_678]

thanks for clearing that up, i'm tired of people bitching

if you gave them no block, then they would then ask for unlimited ammo, and more HP, ect

[Shadowex3]

You guys missed that noblock glitches the hell out of zombiemod's knockback feature. Anyone firing with a zombie touching their clip box tends to launch the zombie straight up with the force of a point blank pump shotty hit.

[Shadow_678]

You guys missed that noblock glitches the hell out of zombiemod's knockback feature. Anyone firing with a zombie touching their clip box tends to launch the zombie straight up with the force of a point blank pump shotty hit.

that works quite well actually

[Jazz]

Yes!!!

Thanks everyone who supported against no-block.

[The Baltimore Ravens]

Yes!!!

Thanks everyone who supported against no-block.

YOUR WELCOME :wink:

[Crazy Dane]

I <3 u for making this :D
I was about to get sick of all the NoBlock threads.

[Stevee]

Well, personally Ive had no trouble at all with No block Zm servers.
However,If you have your reasons not to have it , then I guess I'll Respect them!

[Gator]

I hope no more topics about no block come up like "WE WANT NO-BLOCK BACK" if so then we are making a fail.

[Fast Bullet]

Ty daze.

[Hawk]

I would say no. Simply because of somethings...

Zombies will run tru the humans which makes it harder for them stab them.

Zombies will run over cts easely

but....

CT / Zombie's wont be able 2 block

Whe dont get glitched out by other people

anyways it would be great 2 test it for like 1 week. if whe dont like it then whe change it back. if it is a succes then whe can keep it.

[Crazy Dane]

The humans would just sit in a cornor, shooting zombies if NoBlock got on.

[Hawk]

This clears things up..

I hope less people will make post about No-Block

[Crimson]

No Block



I've seen too many threads, this is long overdue. For reference on what the hell I'm talking about see here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17397), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19349), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18062), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20634), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20777), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19621), here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21088) & here (http://steamgamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20734).

No-block will not be added to Escape, VIP & Napalm for any maps unless in extreme circumstances. It alters the game balance and has way too many implications to work well.

The main reasons:



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Thank you, :high5:

[tucker]

im supporting this thread because all the reason's listed but i do wish there was some mod that would keep people from blocking other people from destinations or a heli or glitching sum one out but it wouldn't work on all the reasons listed. to bad human technology isn't that far yet

[2 Dwarves, 1 Coat]

I've seen mods in CS CZ that allow you to hold USE to ghost yourself, but it's probably not around to CSS yet.

[Epic Bread Man]

Daze can we add no block to the zombie servers pl0x?

Thanks - Bread

[Spliff]

Daze can we add no block to the zombie servers pl0x?

Thanks - Bread

I think that this thread is saying were not adding it to the zombie servers lol.

[Epic Bread Man]

I think that this thread is saying were not adding it to the zombie servers lol.


Oh Really?

[Shadowex3]

I'm starting to wonder if it's time to delete THIS thread because Escape has effectively become a Noblock server now that all it ever seems to play are more and more Noblock maps.

"Can we have noblock plz?"
"No, never, never ever. We will never change the server to add noblock."
"Can we add these maps that have noblock in the map and just keep RTVing to them for ever and ever then?"
"Sure Thing!"
"YAY NOBLOCK SERVER!"

Seriously it doesn't make any sense. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and needs 3 AAA batteries I think I just used the wrong metaphor.

[Phonicz]

we need the no block

[Lucid]

The only good No-Block map is.... oh, wait. There are none.

Personally, whenever we get onto Paranoid, Deathstar, or any of the other overplayed maps. I simply nominate Lostword, and RTV.

[Heymans]

Thank god :) The only reason we could ever need no block is people being ass's and blocking... but that's what we have admins for! Why put on no block that has a slew of cons and very few pros. If you're experiencing issues with people being general jerks and just blocking, why not hit up the forums and report them?

[deltafuzz]

what about blockers and glitchers, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM!?

[Cookie]

what about blockers and glitchers, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM!?

call an admin and demo

[Drox]

what about blockers and glitchers, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM!?

Thats why we have a player complaint section if a admin isnt on when it happens, if someone is doing it on purpose then get a demo of it with their Steam ID and post it. Then the person in question will be taken care of.

[Mystique]

what about blockers and glitchers, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THEM!?

Try adding some of the admins to your friendslist. If you need one, you can always message them on steam.
If there aren't any around, make a demo of the rule breaker and make sure to have a screen shot of the STEAM ID so that we can verify that it is the actual person who is breaking the rules.
When you think you have enough proof, post it in the Player Complaint (http://www.steamgamers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=116) section by using the form (http://www.steamgamers.com/forum/misc.php?do=form&fid=4) for a complaint

[Applesauce]

Thanks for clearing that up i hate no block

[cohuge]

I think that some should have no-block and some should not. In ATIX helicopter, one of the ways to get the survivors on the big ledge is to climb onto another zombie (or survivor in some cases) and jump onto the ladder. but in say ze_deathstar there is no need for stacking whatsoever so have no-block on that. :D

[deltafuzz]

well im sure that this was the right choice (sigh...) BLOKERS GLITCHERS HERE WE COME!

[Shadowex3]

well im sure that this was the right choice (sigh...) BLOKERS GLITCHERS HERE WE COME!

Wtf are you talking about, the server practically IS a noblock only server now >/

[duhoh]

the balance affected so much on certain maps. atix helicopter is a complete noob map with no block on.

thanks fellas

[' starbucks]

man...


block is sometimes good, sometimes bad..

if another player cant jump so high, you can help him, but like boatescape, you get glitched out of helicopter or boat..

block can be good, but can be bad

[BlackEagle]

One map that it needs to be turned on is raccoon facility. I mean big time that map has some tight doorways and people ALWAYS block on it. Other then that I don't think it should really need it anywhere.

The only thing that annoys me (not sure if this is a feature of noblock or not) is that at the beginning of the round the blockers. If their was a way to turn no block on for like the first 5 seconds of a round that would be fantastic. Maps like liccana where I spawned in the house, you cannot get out if someone is blocking the doorway but that is the only blocking on that map. I am not sure if noblock is on titanic because I haven't played it in a while, but when it wasn't I know that in the spawn at the beginning its so annoying to drown because people are AFK are just buying and waiting. Something like that would be nice but I do enjoy not having it because it takes the fun out of it on most maps.

[Lucid]

You would have a lot of people stuck in each other if it would turn back on in 5 seconds.

[Shadowex3]

And again on both counts: This thread is defunct now that Escape effectively IS a noblock server, and if a map is so poorly designed as to need noblock it shouldn't be run to begin with. Raccoon's just plain bad.

[Zaraki]

And again on both counts: This thread is defunct now that Escape effectively IS a noblock server, and if a map is so poorly designed as to need noblock it shouldn't be run to begin with. Raccoon's just plain bad.

I would like NOBLOCK to leave again, zombies are getting easy wins that way because they can run into small holes with 20 of them at once...
Ct's could get into a small place and keep holding them off like newbs...

I VOTE NO AGAINST NOBLOCK!
Those threads were opened many times and now Shadowex3 says that NOBLOCK is on the server??

Noblock is good at one point to get all glitchers away...


This is a topic of PRO and CONTRA sides...:tape:

[Drox]

I would like NOBLOCK to leave again, zombies are getting easy wins that way because they can run into small holes with 20 of them at once...
Ct's could get into a small place and keep holding them off like newbs...

I VOTE NO AGAINST NOBLOCK!
Those threads were opened many times and now Shadowex3 says that NOBLOCK is on the server??

Noblock is good at one point to get all glitchers away...


This is a topic of PRO and CONTRA sides...:tape:

On some maps if noblock wasnt on, zombies would get easy wins cause 20 cts would get stuck on 1 spot. lol It goes both ways, some maps need it and some dont. Its that simple

[Sander Cohen]

Some maps deeply need it like titanic escape, and some maps have it for no reason like the LOTR maps. Seriously, I never saw the point.

[BlackEagle]

You would have a lot of people stuck in each other if it would turn back on in 5 seconds.

Thats true good point. I never thought of that. It just can be frustrating sometimes.

[nintendo64sim]

Finally people will understand... I think.

[Elleon]

Some maps deeply need it like titanic escape, and some maps have it for no reason like the LOTR maps. Seriously, I never saw the point.

Titanic didn't originate with noblock and it worked out perfectly fine, while LOTR needs it and was actually created around the concept of noblock.

I don't know what the hell you are playing Sander, but it is fairly obvious that LOTR maps need to have noblock or they won't work at all, not that humans win on them regularily anymore anyways.

[8=D]

I dont think we need no-block:
1. Easy to glitch
2. If there are 40 people standing on a ledge and a zombie infects 1 person, everyone is fucked and its will lag.
3. You can utlize players for boosts onto ledges which would be otherwise considered unreachable areas.
4. Most of you want no-block to get rid of blockers. Its just as easy to ask an admin to slap him off from where hes blocking. There used to NEVER be an admin in Zombie Escape, but its a lot diffrent now. Theres at least one admin in the server whenever im there.

[BlackEagle]

I dont think we need no-block:
1. Easy to glitch
2. If there are 40 people standing on a ledge and a zombie infects 1 person, everyone is fucked and its will lag.
3. You can utlize players for boosts onto ledges which would be otherwise considered unreachable areas.
4. Most of you want no-block to get rid of blockers. Its just as easy to ask an admin to slap him off from where hes blocking. There used to NEVER be an admin in Zombie Escape, but its a lot diffrent now. Theres at least one admin in the server whenever im there.

Really no block is added on the maps that need it. If you look at the maps that have noblock you can see that they have tight doorways and with block on they would be impossible win maps.