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Ulrich
18 May 2009, 05:22pm
I've not yet played this game, but I'm considering buying it. I've heard some good reviews from some friends and one or two from SGs, but I would like to hear some more before possibly buying it.

So, yeah... Discuss away.

andre1028
18 May 2009, 05:30pm
http://web.mit.edu/smaurer/www/blog/060801%20brussels/waffle.jpg

That is all.

Hiphopopotomus
18 May 2009, 05:32pm
The Gameplay is slightly pointless and linear, but there are many things you can do, not to mention the custom content coming out, you get many different weapons, my favorite being the combat shotgun......6 people teams each with a different specialty, You have the beserker-The Melee fighter, Commando-Don't really know, Support Specialist-All around bad ass, Medic-Medic obviously, Fire Bug- Deals with the Flamethrower, And the Sharpshooter-Uses long ranged weapons. You can customize you character to an extent, picking from about 7 i believe, there is a leveling system with the above classes in which the abilities become progressively stronger, so many aspects of an RPG in there. Many types of SPECIMEN to kill, my favorite, the most powerful, Patriarch. Basically and upgraded version of L4D with all the aspects that L4D was missing and then some.

SneakySnake
18 May 2009, 05:38pm
http://www.mqm.biz/Photos/Chocolate%20Fudge%20Cake.jpg

NOT A LIE!

Hiphopopotomus
18 May 2009, 05:42pm
That's just bandwagon senor Sneaky Snake.

PotshotPolka
18 May 2009, 05:51pm
Another "fuck you" at the big shots by another indie developer.

Modgers1
18 May 2009, 06:04pm
Another "fuck you" at the big shots by another indie developer.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

-Modgers

andre1028
18 May 2009, 06:45pm
My waffle picture defines the game. It's presented well, it looks good, it looks worth a try. You try it, it's too much so you share it with others, it lasts a little (18 hours) and you finally finish it. At the end you realize you just ruined your appetite and you don't want to eat anything like it for another week or so since you've had enough and gotten bored with it. That's basically what the game is. A very irresistible disappointing waffle. It's not for diabetic people (translation: Weak Minded)

Ulrich
18 May 2009, 06:58pm
Do you lvl up constantly with no limit to upgrade possibility?

If not, can u make multiple charactors to upgrade differently?

Bad Dog
18 May 2009, 07:17pm
my only gripe is the amount of shit you have to do to level your perks makes me want to play this game 24/7. DAMN YOU KF!!

Ulrich
18 May 2009, 07:30pm
One last question for now:

Is it like an MMO in the sense that every kill earns you X exp, then at Y exp, you level up, and so on? (I'm guessing it is, since there really is no other way to level up other than exp granting kills.)

Ok, I lied and I'm to lazy to go back and hit delete.

Is friendly fire always on, optional, or not incorperated at all?

andre1028
18 May 2009, 08:16pm
One last question for now:

Is it like an MMO in the sense that every kill earns you X exp, then at Y exp, you level up, and so on? (I'm guessing it is, since there really is no other way to level up other than exp granting kills.)

Ok, I lied and I'm to lazy to go back and hit delete.

Is friendly fire always on, optional, or not incorperated at all?

1. You get a lvl up by doing a certain thing for that certain perk. For example, you need to do 500k shotgun damage to get to level three supporter and 4000 welding points, 300k damage with a bullup and 700 stalker kills for level three commando, 1000 healing points for level one medic etc etc. You basically gain levels by doing what the perk usually does. Supporter sports heavy things like welding and shotguns, commando uses automatic things like bullup, berserker uses melee things like an axe.

2. Friendly Fire is not incorporated at all as far as I'm concerned. The only thing you have to worry about is getting your kill stolen and being blocked, especially cock blocked. I remember once I was aiming at the Patriarch with a L.A.W. (Rocket Launcher) and just as I fire a teammate jumps in front of me and the rocket hits him in my face--- you know what happens after :evil:. It can be illustrated here.....

IDEKEW72S2I

ninjaz1337
18 May 2009, 09:52pm
I love this game. Well let's start with this, using UE2.5 engine contributed to the reason why it costs 20 bucks. Gaining a license for UE3 engine is EXPENSIVE. I would rather pay 20 bucks for a game with UE2.5 engine than 50 bucks for the exact same thing except with better graphics. Yea, I agree, it does look ugly, but after a while you just brush it off. KF was not as freaky as I hoped it would be, no OMGWTF screaming moments, yea it's intense but not scary. There are only a limited amount of official maps released, BUT THERE IS AN SDK (software development kit) RELEASE, MEANING MORE MODS/MAPS/SKINS so on. Attempting to level perks is entertaining, and the amount of intensity could be entertaining (depending on mode, there's a HUGE difference between EASY and MEDIUM, let's say easy is 50x easier than medium). If you're looking for straight forward coop, I'm sorry to say, this won't always be coop but a competition to get the most kills, it all varies on what server you join and who you play with. Half of random servers I get people scattering around to get as many kills as possible and ditching their team (making their teammates weld doors while they run off to pick off zombies and not contributing), half the time I get actual team players, that's why I suggest you play with friends.
Tripwire Interactive: MOST HELPFUL INDIE GAME DEVELOPERS OUT THERE. They post in nearly all HELP ME threads and try their best to fix all problems as soon as possible. They LISTEN to the community and they aren't greedy (points at 20 dollar price tag). They actually CARE about customers.

Killing Floor CAN get repetitive, but so long as there's an SDK, the repetitive is gone.

KF is only 20 dollars, 10 thumbs up for me (2 thumbs + 8 I cut off from SG members)...BUY IT.

Ulrich
19 May 2009, 08:57am
Friendly Fire is not incorporated at all as far as I'm concerned. The only thing you have to worry about is getting your kill stolen and being blocked, especially cock blocked. I remember once I was aiming at the Patriarch with a L.A.W. (Rocket Launcher) and just as I fire a teammate jumps in front of me and the rocket hits him in my face--- you know what happens after :evil:. It can be illustrated here.....

IDEKEW72S2I

Wonderful representation of what happened, ^_^

Anyway, I decided to get the game. I figured since its just $20 and there are still some good reviews, I might as well.


Thanks everyone for the reviews.

Drox
19 May 2009, 04:56pm
I have been playing it and the only real thing that I hate besides how much you have to do just to level up is the way the flash light doesnt look like a flashlight like it does on the Source Engine. For me it looks like im reflecting my flashlight off a mirror, just the way it looks and moves. Other then that the game seems decent, in my opinion alittle bit better then L4D but that aint saying much.

Ulrich
19 May 2009, 05:24pm
I have been playing it and the only real thing that I hate besides how much you have to do just to level up is the way the flash light doesnt look like a flashlight like it does on the Source Engine. For me it looks like im reflecting my flashlight off a mirror, just the way it looks and moves. Other then that the game seems decent, in my opinion alittle bit better then L4D but that aint saying much.

Yeah, the flashlight is horrible comepared to the ones in CSS, HL2, etc.

I like how it takes so much to lvl up. Mainly because the level ups are well worth it. If I had known supports can carry more kilos, then I woulda lvled that perk up first.

I also like how you don't have to play as that perk to gain EXP for it. Eg: you can lvl medic as a firebug.

And yeah, i thought it was a little better than L4D, too. But L4D has much less lag and, in my oppinon, much better graphics.

Red
20 May 2009, 09:16am
I actually like the flashlight in this game because other people can light up the area and you can actually see it.

Not like L4D with the magic flash light that only you can see.

Ulrich: Of course L4D has better graphics, they use a better graphics engine which costs more.

Killing Floor used an older one which was a lot more affordable for them to use. They're not massive like Valve and dripping with cash.

I'll take game play over graphics.

XeNo
20 May 2009, 10:02am
I imagine with enough success this game's graphics will be improved.

From what I can tell they plan on releasing updates periodically, which will hopefully help the RPG part of it as well as difficulty and any repetitiveness.

Some updates I'd like to see are new weapons along with new perks, or just new weapons. Having the LAW as the only 'official' big gun is kind of lame. Due to the fact after you get lv4/lv5 on perks, the gun specific to those perks used along with the perk does more damage than the LAW does as no perk gives it bonuses.

It'd be nice for some kind of boss killer perk, where they get bonuses to the LAW, but only gain points by getting Flesh Pounder/Patriarch/Scrake kills. Also a minigun that has terrible accuracy but high ammo, low reload, and fast speed would be nice, to get up close and just unload on a large group or boss.



For anyone not sure about re-play value of this game, the game really is going to start being awesome once you're lv5 in your favorite perk.
I can definitely see us changing servers to Suicidal and custom 10 slot 300 specimen wave types to make stuff even more interesting and challenging.

The new maps will cause even less repetitiveness as said before. I was turned off at first once people started finding spots where you can survive kinda easy all the way to patriarch, but after we already got some new maps on the servers I can see that changing once people learn the SDK get better at it.

The game is actually a lot better than L4D, L4D is just so repetitive..I haven't touched it in ages, people go to the same spots, every single time, they all know where to camp, and I just don't see how it can be fun anymore when it's the same shit every map (all 4 of them by the way).

Red
20 May 2009, 10:07am
Everybody needs to hurry up and get to level 5 already.

We already have a few people almost at level 5.

I'm already level 5 medic, xeno is almost level 5 support, tofu is almost level 5 beserker, we need more support and a fire guy.

Suicidal will be fun

Lux
20 May 2009, 12:12pm
This game needs to get some different stuff because it's already getting boring. You do the same thing everytime, fight the monsters...fight the same boss, the only difference is the maps, and unless the SDK brings the kind of differentiation that CSS has then it's gonna fail quickly.

XeNo
20 May 2009, 12:22pm
This game needs to get some different stuff because it's already getting boring. You do the same thing everytime, fight the monsters...fight the same boss, the only difference is the maps, and unless the SDK brings the kind of differentiation that CSS has then it's gonna fail quickly.
As said before, lv5 is when the game really starts getting more fun.

Right now it just seems boring for the most part due to everyone only wanting to play regular normal/maybe hard servers so that they can level their perks.

Once people are level 5 and don't care for leveling, they'll join servers that you can't level perks yet you still can use their bonuses (I'm pretty sure I've seen this before) and the game can go crazy, 200 monster waves, custom waves and from what I've seen, updates to probably customize hp ratios and more.

The creators really aren't going to just leave this game alone, they appear to be constantly working at this game. I'm sure there will be mods and such out soon as well since their SDK was released so fast, hell, some people have actually made maps in the SDK already, granted they aren't great and basically all of them suck except for the ones people ported, but still it's hella progress compared to some games.


Essentially, CS:S is the same thing (or can be easily argued) in terms of repetitiveness and 'boring' as you so seem to believe KF to be.

Red
20 May 2009, 12:48pm
Seriously, you call KF repetitive?

What in the fuck is CS then?

Modgers1
20 May 2009, 02:20pm
Seriously, you call KF repetitive?

What in the fuck is CS then?

Or Left 4 Dead; or TF2, etc.

-Modgers

VirDeBello
20 May 2009, 02:30pm
This game sounds like BF2 to me. But in a year, I doubt you will be playing it still lol

Modgers1
20 May 2009, 02:44pm
This game sounds like BF2 to me. But in a year, I doubt you will be playing it still lol

Lol, how on earth could killing specimens in a post-apocalyptic England sound anything like nade-spamming, run and gunning, highly unrealistic modern warfare combat game that BF2 is? :crazy:

-Modgers

Bad Dog
20 May 2009, 04:54pm
Lol, how on earth could killing specimens in a post-apocalyptic England sound anything like nade-spamming, run and gunning, highly unrealistic modern warfare combat game that BF2 is? :crazy:

-Modgers

HEY DONT CALL FLYING A 5 MAN HELICOPTER SOLO THEN CRASHING IT INTO A U.S. CARRIER THEN SNEAKING ON THAT SAME CARRIER AND KILLING THE WHOLE OPPOSING TEAM WHILE YOUR SQUAD MATES SPAWN ON YOU INSIDE THE CARRIER BECAUSE YOUR SQUAD LEADER AND THEN HIJACK UNITED STATES JETS THAT HAVE CONTROLS IN ENGLISH AND THEY ARE CHINSE BUT CAN FLY IT JUST THE SAME AS A CHINESE JET FIGHTER UNREALISTIC!

VirDeBello
20 May 2009, 09:33pm
Well from all I hear, its just about classes and unlocking new stuff as you level up, would remind me of BF2 or TF2. No one else has talked about what you actually do with the classes or anything. Storyline, gameplay......this was supposed to be a review and when you have someone who has never heard or seen the game. You can only wonder what it maybe.

Scree :O
20 May 2009, 10:16pm
Story wise, the game doesn't offer much. It's about the military and policemen kill the so called "specimens". The "specimens" are a product of a top secret military project to create Spac... super soldiers. Things go bad and the government shuts the project down. The project doesn't want to be shut down so now, these specimens are on the loose. There are many diffirent specimens, some a failure and some more successful, like Clots per say, are the basic zombie. Slow moving and they're one hit kills for sharpshooters. Then you have different/stronger/bigger enemies (different as in how you have to bring them down) coming at you at later stages or "waves" of the game. Each map description explains why you're there and the maps are quite varied. At the moment, we stand at 5 maps which are: Farm, Manor, Biotics Lab, Offices and West London. As you can see from the titles, they differ.


Now about the gameplay. The game is divided into stages called "waves". It is what you think it is. You start at wave one, when you beat the first one, you get the opportunity to go to the Trader (a really horny english black chick) and buy weapons according to your perk (or not, but it's advisable as perks give you bonuses for that weapon). Then you fight wave 2, which is slightly more difficult and when you kill all of the zombies (there's a timer). There can be up to 10 waves. After the final wave, you fight the patriarch. And that's the end. Of course there is much more to it than I can explain. For instance, the trader doesn't spawn at the same spot all the time. She has more than one shop and she nevers spawns at the same one twice in a row. This is to prevent camping at one spot since going to the trader is a neccesety.

The perks are Comando, Shaprshooter, Firebug, Medic and Support.

Each of the perks give you a certain bonus. If you ab(use) the bonus you will level up the perk. Every level has a certain requirement. For Medic: Heal 750 health points, For Sharpshooter: Score 750 headshots.


That's it really. If you have a question ask.

Ganzta
21 May 2009, 12:24am
Everybody needs to hurry up and get to level 5 already.

We already have a few people almost at level 5.

I'm already level 5 medic, xeno is almost level 5 support, tofu is almost level 5 beserker, we need more support and a fire guy.

Suicidal will be fun

hmmm... could be because that you, modgers, and astrum camps in your password protected server and power level and then slam the door at whoever asks to get in?

VirDeBello
21 May 2009, 12:49am
How is the control of the game. Like how does it play? Is it CSS or BF2 PR, does it use ADS? These are the things we need to know! Oh....does it offer single player by any chance?

Bad Dog
21 May 2009, 08:34am
Im TRYING to get to lvl 5 but whenever im on no one is on,, and then idk what perk to be, Support or sharpshooter. Thier both lvl 2 or 3 right now about halfway through

broncoty
21 May 2009, 11:35am
How is the control of the game. Like how does it play? Is it CSS or BF2 PR, does it use ADS? These are the things we need to know! Oh....does it offer single player by any chance?

Umm its sorta like css. There is ADS. and yes there is single player.

Astrum
21 May 2009, 02:04pm
hmmm... could be because that you, modgers, and astrum camps in your password protected server and power level and then slam the door at whoever asks to get in?

Single player is a more effective way to power level. Power leveling in a group is a long, tedious, and boring way to level.

Red
21 May 2009, 02:21pm
hmmm... could be because that you, modgers, and astrum camps in your password protected server and power level and then slam the door at whoever asks to get in?

I actually leveled up my medic through normal server game play.

In our protected server we slaughter monsters too fast for me to do anything useful as a medic.

Now for support, that's a bit different.

SATAN
21 May 2009, 03:34pm
Where the hell do you guys play? never seen almost any of you on our servers... and im on there every day.

Also on im lvl 4 support, kinda wasted time leveling all my perks to lvl 2 :/

PotshotPolka
21 May 2009, 03:51pm
hmmm... could be because that you, modgers, and astrum camps in your private server and power level and then slam the door at whoever asks to get in?

fixed.

Bad Dog
21 May 2009, 05:15pm
im level 2 support and fuckin taking FOREVER to level it

Ulrich
21 May 2009, 07:32pm
Story wise, the game doesn't offer much. It's about the military and policemen kill the so called "specimens". The "specimens" are a product of a top secret military project to create Spac... super soldiers. Things go bad and the government shuts the project down. The project doesn't want to be shut down so now, these specimens are on the loose. There are many diffirent specimens, some a failure and some more successful, like Clots per say, are the basic zombie. Slow moving and they're one hit kills for sharpshooters. Then you have different/stronger/bigger enemies (different as in how you have to bring them down) coming at you at later stages or "waves" of the game. Each map description explains why you're there and the maps are quite varied. At the moment, we stand at 5 maps which are: Farm, Manor, Biotics Lab, Offices and West London. As you can see from the titles, they differ.


Now about the gameplay. The game is divided into stages called "waves". It is what you think it is. You start at wave one, when you beat the first one, you get the opportunity to go to the Trader (a really horny english black chick) and buy weapons according to your perk (or not, but it's advisable as perks give you bonuses for that weapon). Then you fight wave 2, which is slightly more difficult and when you kill all of the zombies (there's a timer). There can be up to 10 waves. After the final wave, you fight the patriarch. And that's the end. Of course there is much more to it than I can explain. For instance, the trader doesn't spawn at the same spot all the time. She has more than one shop and she nevers spawns at the same one twice in a row. This is to prevent camping at one spot since going to the trader is a neccesety.

The perks are Comando, Shaprshooter, Firebug, Medic and Support.

Each of the perks give you a certain bonus. If you ab(use) the bonus you will level up the perk. Every level has a certain requirement. For Medic: Heal 750 health points, For Sharpshooter: Score 750 headshots.


That's it really. If you have a question ask.

You forgot Berserker as a perk, fool. ôô

Anyway, yeah. As mentioned before, I've been on the SG servers a bit and I've only seen SGs there once... PLAY THE GAME, I NEED NON-IDIOTS TO SHOOT WITH ME!!! :rant:

Astrum
21 May 2009, 09:34pm
You forgot Berserker as a perk, fool. ôô

Anyway, yeah. As mentioned before, I've been on the SG servers a bit and I've only seen SGs there once... PLAY THE GAME, I NEED NON-IDIOTS TO SHOOT WITH ME!!! :rant:

I'm usually working on the servers. It's one or the other, pal. :toung:

Also, we don't have reserved slots in use right now. I'm the only one set up with a reserved slot and that was just for testing purposes. So often is the case that random people join and SG members can't get in. We might roll out reserved slots soon, but the details of that are kind of gray right now.

Scree :O
21 May 2009, 09:58pm
Oh yeah, sorry. Berseker, sure. Although Berserkers are a useless class.

XeNo
22 May 2009, 03:00am
Oh yeah, sorry. Berseker, sure. Although Berserkers are a useless class.
Even though they're basically the only class other than Support and medic that are useful in Suicidal, sure.

Seriously, play the game. I saw you join our servers once, and stayed for maybe...30 mins? Then left with a terrible score so best view of your opinions on the game that I can see is someone that ragequitted out of it. We've beaten normal before with all Beserkers, it was fun as hell.

Scree :O
22 May 2009, 06:41am
Who the fuck do you think you are? You played with me once, I think it was that night my ISP had a problem and I basically lagged out of the game. That's also why I had a bad score. I'm always the first or the second on kills when I play.And what the fuck does score matter? As long as every perk does it's job the team is succesful. And I've played more on Mystiques and Spiked Rockers server, just I guess not with you.

Your argument is invalid.

You can ask Lux, Andre, Drac, Bullet, Blueline, Daze,...

PotshotPolka
22 May 2009, 08:30am
Who the fuck do you think you are? You played with me once, I think it was that night my ISP had a problem and I basically lagged out of the game. That's also why I had a bad score. I'm always the first or the second on kills when I play.And what the fuck does score matter? As long as every perk does it's job the team is succesful. And I've played more on Mystiques and Spiked Rockers server, just I guess not with you.

Your argument is invalid.

You can ask Lux, Andre, Drac, Bullet, Blueline, Daze,...

QQ. Apparently someone has a soft spot.

Scree :O
22 May 2009, 08:43am
And what might that soft spot be, mister psychology man?

Seriously, I don't know what's wrong with valid arguments and different opinions.

PotshotPolka
22 May 2009, 09:48am
And what might that soft spot be, mister psychology man?

Seriously, I don't know what's wrong with valid arguments and different opinions.

Because for some goddamn reason you don't seem to understand the difference between the two and try to defend yourself behind a smokescreen of "NO U it's my opinion!" and pretend we don't have the right to challenge it. Child.

XeNo
22 May 2009, 11:08am
Who the fuck do you think you are? You played with me once, I think it was that night my ISP had a problem and I basically lagged out of the game. That's also why I had a bad score. I'm always the first or the second on kills when I play.And what the fuck does score matter? As long as every perk does it's job the team is succesful. And I've played more on Mystiques and Spiked Rockers server, just I guess not with you.

Your argument is invalid.

You can ask Lux, Andre, Drac, Bullet, Blueline, Daze,...
I can ask Lux/Andre/Drac (People that play Beserker, mind you) if they think Beserker is a useless class?



How is my argument invalid when I'm telling you that Beserker is FOR A FACT, one of the best Perks to use on Suicidal, therefore the entire opposite of useless as you have posted them to be.

Have you played Suicidal? No. You play on Mystiques and Spike's Normal server.

You know what I do on Normal servers? I run around doing my own thing, double second best score in the server basically raping everything in my way. Because Normal is that goddamn easy.

Hard I mess around on until wave 5, and then Suicidal with a decent team is when I actually have to play.


Until you've actually PLAYED THE GAME, not messed around on Normal, you cannot possibly make the assumption Beserker is useless. Not to mention I bet you haven't even seen a decent beserker. If you had, you wouldn't call them useless.

Edit:
Also

Seriously, I don't know what's wrong with valid arguments and different opinions.

Oh yeah, sorry. Berseker, sure. Although Berserkers are a useless class.
Oh yeah, real valid argument to just say something is useless with no proof or even any tiny little tid-bit as to why.

You're starting to make yourself sound incredibly stupid upon hypocritical. Let me know how that works out for you.

Lux
22 May 2009, 01:48pm
.........

IMO Beserker is a good class, but Xeno and PotShot wtf??


Seriously, play the game. I saw you join our servers once, and stayed for maybe...30 mins? Then left with a terrible score so best view of your opinions on the game that I can see is someone that ragequitted out of it. We've beaten normal before with all Beserkers, it was fun as hell.

A bit quick to the gun.......could've just said beserker is a good class/proved why etc.


Because for some goddamn reason you don't seem to understand the difference between the two and try to defend yourself behind a smokescreen of "NO U it's my opinion!" and pretend we don't have the right to challenge it. Child.

I don't see where the "NO U" is. I think he's allowed to disagree with an accusation against him.......lol. He's not argued Xeno's beserker view anywhere at all, so to suggest that he doesn't think you have a right to challenge his view is odd. All you've done is target him.....so really un needed.


Anyway.......Beserker is a good perk I think.....although I'd say that all except sharpshooter are useful perks (although the Flamer isn't so good on suicidal). Beserker is good, and it's always handy to have a Beserker, although without a medic your fucked in harder levels.

andre1028
22 May 2009, 02:06pm
Let's get this straight. Each class has its ups and downs. If you aren't into the type of thing that-that class usually does then it's usually useless to you, no argument there. Berserker in my opinion is great if you want to kill off enemies quicker than usual like on suicidal difficulty where the damage resistance and damage done comes in handy. Like XeNo said it's probably one of the best classes for Suicidal if not one of the best classes generally. If you don't want to waste your ammo then go berserker. But if the class isn't really something you're into then please don't say that it's useless because that's kind of a biased statement.

P.S: I play Berserker all the time (and Medic, Commando, and Support if necessary) and have had my fair share of time with all of the perks (Pretty much have each one leveled to 2-3). So my opinion is pretty much general.

Scree :O
22 May 2009, 02:53pm
I've only said it because they always get in the way when you try to shoot shit. I really can't see how a guy that hits things with a hammer can be more effective than someone who has a fucking machine gun in his hands.

And yes I play normal, I tried the hard difficulty and got to wave 7. Mainly because I don't have a fuckton of people to play it with and as far as I understand you need a good team to get through Hard and Suicidal. I usualy play with 1 or 2 people on normal, until those fleshpounds come in.

Anyway, I don't get all the "I'm better than you" bullshit some of you guys laid on the table. Is it my status as a member? Me being 16/17? It's a bit meh.

Let's get on with the thread shall we? I see no point in this endless pile of flaming dung.

SATAN
22 May 2009, 04:08pm
I've only said it because they always get in the way when you try to shoot shit. I really can't see how a guy that hits things with a hammer can be more effective than someone who has a fucking machine gun in his hands.


So i guess you are one of those guys that shoot the stuff im trying to mow down with my chainsaw (yes that is not a hammer) those guys are annoying...

There's a machine gun in Killing Floor?

Also i think Berserker is awesome, had a lot of fun leveling it to 2. But I still prefer Support.

XeNo
22 May 2009, 04:20pm
I've only said it because they always get in the way when you try to shoot shit. I really can't see how a guy that hits things with a hammer can be more effective than someone who has a fucking machine gun in his hands.
You'll see when you actually play Suicidal, you'll run out of bullets and guess what, Berserker never runs out of bullets.


And yes I play normal, I tried the hard difficulty and got to wave 7. Mainly because I don't have a fuckton of people to play it with and as far as I understand you need a good team to get through Hard and Suicidal. I usualy play with 1 or 2 people on normal, until those fleshpounds come in.
I can damn near solo Hard to 7/8 waves without much trouble depending on map.


Anyway, I don't get all the "I'm better than you" bullshit some of you guys laid on the table. Is it my status as a member? Me being 16/17? It's a bit meh.
Tbh, we are.

It has nothing to do with status or age, only what knowledge of the game you seem to have, and how good you actually are at the game.

We breeze through hard using berserkers among other classes in our group, you actually save a lot of money first round to go berserker and knife everything, meaning less money spent on ammo, which YOU WILL run out of on Suicidal quite fast if you don't know what you're doing.


The whole point of this back-and-forth is to make sure you know Berserkers are not (and as a matter of fact the complete opposite of) useless.

Tbh the whole bashing came from your side, I only said that from what I could tell so far from my experience with you was that you quitted out of the game by wave 5 and had said some harsh words before hand. You could have calmly responded with your isp messed up for awhile when playing, instead you came out with 'Who the fuck do you think you are' and the 'your argument is invalid' comment really just peeved me off, due to me obviously knowing quite a deal more about how gameplay and strategy is used in the game than you, but you still trying to be aggressive towards I'm wrong.


This thread is still on track as far as I can tell, players are learning from most of my posts how Berserker can be used to be quite beneficial and also what a very good and cheap perk is to level up when they begin playing.

I prefer that over leaving the thread with your comment on Berserkers as being 'useless' as the final statement on them in a thread that is supposed to be reviewing the game.

PotshotPolka
22 May 2009, 08:51pm
I don't see the point of even reviewing the game with so many new additions being made map wise daily and new weapons and perk improvements promised, maybe enemies too.

Dante
23 May 2009, 12:57am
All i can say it's fun and enjoyable always keeps you on your toes! ^.^

Scree :O
23 May 2009, 01:05am
All right, I'll try playing the berserker. I guess I'll post back the results :D. Can someone give me a clue how headshots work and what weapons to use? I heard that chainsaw sucks without medic since they are pretty slow. What should my buy "order" be?

P.S: I'm sorry if you felt that I was exaggerating, I truly am. Well, onward to glory in a PC game!

Slovenec
23 May 2009, 05:25am
axe->chainsaw
thats all you need

Lux
23 May 2009, 06:29am
When I use an axe I hit and run, so you just chop...aim for the head and move backwards to avoid being hit. Repeat :blink1:

andre1028
23 May 2009, 07:28am
All right, I'll try playing the berserker. I guess I'll post back the results :D. Can someone give me a clue how headshots work and what weapons to use? I heard that chainsaw sucks without medic since they are pretty slow. What should my buy "order" be?

P.S: I'm sorry if you felt that I was exaggerating, I truly am. Well, onward to glory in a PC game!

I usually run around with a knife in the first round killing everything I see and trying to find some armor. Once the round is over I usually buy an axe or machete with armor (if you got enough kills for the euros). From there I run around killing with an axe a couple rounds before buying a chainsaw so I can start helping my teammates hold off choke points (I.E doorways in farmhouses on the Farm map.)

Head shots work the same way as usual head shots on a gun work. You aim and hit. You have to learn how to memorize where the crosshair is though, but after a couple start round knife fests you'll get the habit and you'll be one hit killing Clots in no time.

PotshotPolka
23 May 2009, 07:30am
its quid not euros...

andre1028
23 May 2009, 08:12am
its quid not euros...

I'm sorry for not knowing foreign currency :)

PotshotPolka
23 May 2009, 08:14am
I'm sorry for not knowing foreign currency :)

damn Canadians and your arrogance towards foreign currency.

Bad Dog
23 May 2009, 11:48am
I love Support, although im kinda upset that when I get to Suicidal im going to be the Door Man. I love shotguns and things that go boom tho, so whateva ! And FYI Beserker is a crazy awsome class, but honestly this is true, you have to be crazy enough to do it. I have seen Andre go toe to toe with Skrakes(chainsaw specimen) and Fleshpounds. I know if i was in his shoes id be runnin an gunnin, but Andre just fucks their shit up. Thats what makes a good beserker.

Slovenec
23 May 2009, 12:36pm
You can acctualy cut off flesh pounds arms with chainsaw

Lux
23 May 2009, 12:52pm
damn Canadians and your arrogance towards foreign currency.

lol Suri said Euro's too -.-

Like us calling Dollars Pesos :heh:

PingPong
23 May 2009, 09:43pm
Amazing game, great content and lots of fun especially if your playing with clanmates or friends. I mean come on 20 bucks for this great of a game, its worth a try atleast dont ya thin? I have it and i love it. Highly recomened by me

SoulKeeper
24 May 2009, 12:20am
Game looks great...

Do want.

XeNo
24 May 2009, 04:56am
its quid not euros...
Why does it say Pounds in game then..?

Game looks great...

Do want.
You say 'Do want' after like every post.

Astrum
24 May 2009, 06:45am
Why does it say Pounds in game then..?

Quid is slang for the British Pound. Kind of like how we say, "X is thirty bucks".

XeNo
24 May 2009, 07:22am
Quid is slang for the British Pound. Kind of like how we say, "X is thirty bucks".
Hell of an expensive x.

OH WAIT IF YOU SAY IT FAST I GET IT LALJFEIFOJFWEOIJFOLOL.